You know that Kelly is not good enough to win a national

You know that Kelly is not good enough to win a national
by ACross (2021-11-22 21:40:00)

In reply to: Congrats to RH.... posted by crazychester

Championship.

And hiring coaches is not rocket science.

There are identifiable reasons why ND has failed so often. As they did with hiring Kelly.

As we glide into the soft underbelly of our schedule, and start to play like a top 20 team against truly horrific teams, it is not rational to have amnesia about what has happened heretofore in September and early October. And since 2021.

We know exactly what we have.

I agree with zippy’s general sentiment. Most of the coaches on his list are better than Kelly, and he didn’t list a single NFL head coach.

Replies:

Brian Kelly inability - BRIAN1956 2021-11-23 19:20:16
BK 2.0 is 1-7 against top ten. Only win over fake Clemson * - airborneirish 2021-11-23 12:01:55
OK, Werner von Braun, name your top 5 choices. * - GoldCoastIrish 2021-11-23 11:28:21
- Making lists if the heighth of wankery - ACross 2021-11-23 12:35:11
  - Your boy Jason Garrett is available though! - DawsonMayes871 2021-11-23 15:17:24
    - Garrett, Mora, Chryst. - smithwick 2021-11-24 11:47:25
    - I would take either of them right now - ACross 2021-11-23 16:08:29
      - He's the worst coach in the history of the sport. * - irish2x 2021-11-23 19:06:50
      - Whatever * - crazychester 2021-11-23 16:53:10
        I would take a turkey carcass over Kelly - ACross 2021-11-23 20:40:41
- Stop; this isn't about creating lists - ndzippy 2021-11-23 12:18:28
Kelly has a legitimate shot at a NC over the next several - roccoglobboschoolforwomen 2021-11-23 10:48:05
- Thought you gave up the hallucinogens? * - MDDomer 2021-11-23 11:38:16
  - Only horse paste and Ostarine these days * - roccoglobboschoolforwomen 2021-11-23 12:00:50
- You ass bandits act like September and early Oct never - ACross 2021-11-23 11:14:52
  - Dumb - vairishfan1 2021-11-23 13:44:32
    - Are you just trolling us? - ndzippy 2021-11-24 09:07:33
  - Speaking of the simplest of tools…….. * - dfcirish 2021-11-23 13:00:38
    - Sounds like you didn't grasp Bonger's - ACross 2021-11-23 15:00:34
      - Want some cheese with that whine? * - dfcirish 2021-11-23 22:47:31
  - No, I don’t act like that - RoccoGlobboSchoolForWomen 2021-11-23 11:55:15
    - It feels like the waypoint between hell, purgatory, and - ACross 2021-11-23 12:03:27
      - You're not wrong about that * - roccoglobboschoolforwomen 2021-11-23 12:17:35
- And I think it's overly optimistic to think he can win an NC - ndzippy 2021-11-23 10:59:55
  - We would have lost the Toledo game - roccoglobboschoolforwomen 2021-11-23 12:17:02
  - I think the recruiting momentum is real - ufl 2021-11-23 11:10:53
    - I agree, and I think Freeman deserves a lot of credit - ndzippy 2021-11-23 11:14:17
I disagree that hiring head coaches is not rocket science - DBCooper 2021-11-22 21:56:31
- Hiring coaches is very difficult. - smithwick 2021-11-23 08:30:32
  - Disagree that Alabama was wandering in the wilderness. - Otter 2021-11-23 13:57:51
  - your assertion that "every power program" - ACross 2021-11-23 12:01:21
    - I swear, for a well accomplished lawyer - DBCooper 2021-11-23 12:41:02
      - there are a couple of things I would build on here - jt 2021-11-23 14:03:35
        The schedules Weis played were not all that tough - irishaddict 2021-11-23 18:29:54
        oh, but the excuses write themselves - jt 2021-11-23 20:07:03
        I agree with that - DBCooper 2021-11-23 14:31:59
        it's misleading to look at SEC teams' schedules - jt 2021-11-23 18:17:00
    - 5 weeks ? * - crazychester 2021-11-23 12:04:43
      - Well he shat the bed 6 weeks ago on national TV - ACross 2021-11-23 12:40:26
  - OSU hasn’t had a bad one since 1950! - Freight Train 2021-11-23 09:40:34
    - And yet we have the same # of titles since 1970 - gregmorrissey 2021-11-23 10:33:10
      - Huh? - Freight Train 2021-11-23 13:02:46
      - Huh? - Freight Train 2021-11-23 11:12:36
        Coach Hanratty? * - RJD 2021-11-23 13:20:15
        More of a point than an argument about trading places - gregmorrissey 2021-11-23 12:32:38
      - Nit: We have one more national championship than Ohio State - tf86 2021-11-23 10:42:00
        Gave them credit for 1970 which showed as claimed on Google * - gregmorrissey 2021-11-23 11:00:46
        That's a bogus claimed title - Nebraska was rightful champ - gordonbombay 2021-11-23 12:18:00
        Thanks, I didn't look in detail. Based on my +/- spreadsheet - gregmorrissey 2021-11-23 12:45:27
    - OU went 10 years between good coaches - Irish_Texan 2021-11-23 10:29:32
      - You’re right. Forgot him. Should’ve looked it up. * - Freight Train 2021-11-23 11:06:46
  - A few more differences between the NFL and college - tf86 2021-11-23 09:20:09
- Lest we forget - ufl 2021-11-23 08:17:05
  - Price was their George O'Leary - tf86 2021-11-23 09:02:04
    - I still think O'Leary would have been.......... - Ty Webb 2021-11-23 10:20:34
      - O'Leary would've been quite good here - gordonbombay 2021-11-23 12:21:34
    - True - ufl 2021-11-23 09:09:58
- wasn't Kelly 2-10 against P5 teams over a stretch? w/ a Navy - MrE 2021-11-22 22:12:00
  - I don’t think anyone is arguing he shouldn’t have been fired - DBCooper 2021-11-22 22:16:40
    - Since then he is 1-7 against top 10 (from memory) - airborneirish 2021-11-23 12:00:51
      - Ill explain below * - DBCooper 2021-11-23 12:42:43
        What a bizarre response * - airborneirish 2021-11-23 13:07:39
        I just repeated your post pretty much - DBCooper 2021-11-23 13:11:07
        "we are talking about kelly (since 2016)" DBCooper - airborneirish 2021-11-23 13:38:45
        hold on there - DBCooper 2021-11-23 14:16:05
        Hold on thar, Baba Looey - ndzippy 2021-11-23 14:35:24
        I feel the same - DBCooper 2021-11-23 14:50:36
        I actually don't think Tom Herman is that bad - ndzippy 2021-11-23 15:29:54
        understood and my bad - BK brings out the ugly - airborneirish 2021-11-23 14:21:44
        Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours - DBCooper 2021-11-23 14:35:45
    - Would have had no problem if Kelly had been ousted after 16 - crazychester 2021-11-22 22:28:32
      - We'll never know, of course - tf86 2021-11-23 09:28:01
      - You have officially gone mental * - ACross 2021-11-22 22:36:46
- I thought both Herman and Mullen were meatheads - ACross 2021-11-22 22:11:04
  - I think Kiffin will win big if he gets one of the premier - VaDblDmr 2021-11-23 10:55:33
    - I don't -- 70%-75% with 1-2 head scratchers every year - gregmorrissey 2021-11-23 11:11:32
    - I don't necessarily disagree, but I'd be wary of hiring him - tf86 2021-11-23 11:04:42
  - OT, but an even more drastic example than Florida - tf86 2021-11-23 09:36:13
  - Nd has the exact opposite problem as Tx - crazychester 2021-11-22 22:23:44
    - We have a dysfunctional leadership structure - ACross 2021-11-22 22:44:37
  - I think Kiffin is going to get another chance to prove - DBCooper 2021-11-22 22:14:51
- It's more crapshoot than rocket science - ndzippy 2021-11-22 22:10:30
While I may have been willing to concede you subject line - crazychester 2021-11-22 21:49:15