If Brian Kelly were to decide to move on after 2023

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No. As in "no" rings. Rhymes with Bo. Also ringless. * - Knute of Indy 2021-05-07 18:35:06
Overall, probably not. But for non-football reasons. - IrishJosh24 2021-05-06 11:24:23
- You may have convinced me - NDAtty 2021-05-11 12:31:47
- 2020 was one of Kelly’s best coaching seasons and - 1978Irish 2021-05-06 13:26:23
  - Sure. - IrishJosh24 2021-05-06 14:34:56
Make that a purple faced statue - IrishRed 2021-05-06 10:42:08
- How about a bronze relief embedded in the sidewalk, - Moff 2021-05-08 04:14:31
So you're asking if someone could coach at ND for 14 years - Carlos Huerta 2021-05-06 08:54:14
Only if there is “best of a bad lot” statue. - Piertravlr 2021-05-05 22:40:26
Absolutely not. His record against top teams is dreadful * - airborneirish 2021-05-05 20:57:27
No * - guinness1940 2021-05-05 18:21:27
BK is the dean of mediocrity - ccb 2021-05-05 15:26:33
Not one single season without a blow-out or a loss to a bad - 1002 2021-05-05 14:42:03
Next topic:nihilistingolf pants already answered correct"no" * - ColoraDomer 2021-05-05 14:34:03
Brian Kelly defined success in December 2009. - squid 2021-05-05 13:12:02
Yes, of course. Otherwise he would’ve been fired. - Boomer80 2021-05-05 12:51:31
Mediocrity is never esteemed or remembered * - Frank Drebin 2021-05-05 11:13:02
Swarbrick will spin it that way. - irishintheville 2021-05-05 10:38:35
- But we have the most hallowed artificial turf in all of - SWPaDem 2021-05-05 12:22:30
Well, he did make mad cheddar. * - doolinbanjos 2021-05-05 10:18:16
He's our John Cooper (minus the 2 major bowl wins) * - StetsonDan 2021-05-05 10:12:13
- And minus the recruiting * - Groundhog 2021-05-05 23:24:23
- He's Bo Schembechler, minus the adoring fan base - Freight Train 2021-05-05 11:57:36
  - Nah...He beats USC. * - Leeroy_Jenkins 2021-05-05 16:27:19
- Good comparison - Twinkie the Kid 2021-05-05 10:56:00
  - 1998 OSU was probably the best team in America. - revressbo 2021-05-05 11:54:30
    - Thats one way to describe Nick Saban i guess * - Athlete37 2021-05-06 07:29:07
      - It was tongue-in-cheek. - revressbo 2021-05-06 09:27:42
        '98 MSU was a .500 team but had 11 guys drafted - irishlaw2010 2021-05-06 11:52:56
Jimmy Carter had it right. - SWPaDem 2021-05-05 07:40:34
Brian Kelly is not an elite coach - faustfever 2021-05-05 06:58:25
Not without a national title and several major bowl wins.... * - Wolfetone 2021-05-05 06:19:10
Not by anyone applying ND’s true standards - GreenMonstah 2021-05-05 05:24:38
BK ranking as an ND coach similar to Ian Books ND QB ranking - Hickster 2021-05-05 00:51:06
- I would include Quinn, Clausen and Beuerlein - SorinBasement 2021-05-05 08:35:15
  - Do you really think Clausen was better than Book? - SWPaDem 2021-05-06 10:27:25
    - I absolutely think Clausen as better. - IrishGeek 2021-05-06 20:26:58
  - Yes - I did miss some. - Hickster 2021-05-05 11:03:48
- Recruiting, failure to be a head coach, poor coordinator - SEE 2021-05-05 06:58:28
He and his bosses successfully reduced expectations. * - The Flash 2021-05-04 22:37:14
Not even in the slightest bit. - wearendhockey 2021-05-04 22:36:50
No - nihilist in golf pants 2021-05-04 22:13:58
The definition of success has been co-opted by clowns - Jvan 2021-05-04 21:22:37
We are only as successful as we are happy. - Goldhelmethead 2021-05-04 21:20:55
2 uNDefeated seasons isn’t successful enough? - DakotaDomer 2021-05-04 20:30:10
I think the 14-year thing hurts his legacy. - revressbo 2021-05-04 19:31:27
- just speaking for myself, I will not downgrade the Clemson - jt 2021-05-05 01:19:49
  - I'm fine with calling it "great". - revressbo 2021-05-05 02:21:09
- No Gameday mass? - Chicagond99 2021-05-04 20:45:04
  - Yes. And that's probably my biggest disagreement of all. - revressbo 2021-05-04 22:25:15
    - Outstanding response. * - SorinBasement 2021-05-05 08:28:48
    - Great post * - Fastenatingguy 2021-05-05 07:29:25
- The issue for BK is the lack of big wins. - Tex Francisco 2021-05-04 20:38:17
  - Yes, I agree, though my post didn't come off that way. - revressbo 2021-05-04 22:30:18
  - Only 3 of those 8 losses were competitive... - Scoop80 2021-05-04 21:29:25
  - Throw Clemson 2015 on that list... - Irishdemon 2021-05-04 21:10:12
    - I debated whether to include that game. - Tex Francisco 2021-05-05 09:12:05
      - That '15 Clemson team went unbeaten and played... - Irishdemon 2021-05-05 16:16:09
        Yeah, it was a pretty big game even at the time. - revressbo 2021-05-05 16:38:57
Successful? Probably. Worthy of the coaching legacy? - SEE 2021-05-04 16:33:35
- Probably? - Hanratty5ND 2021-05-04 19:28:26
  - I agree, but - SEE 2021-05-04 19:39:13
- I don't know. - MrE 2021-05-04 17:54:14
Depends - El Kabong 2021-05-04 14:30:05
- I think the timeline matters - BmoreIrish 2021-05-04 20:41:05
- Along with agreeing with Andy ... - CJC 2021-05-04 18:43:36
  - Exactly. Longevity does not correspond with success - knutesteen 2021-05-04 20:53:00
  - I think they should build a statue of Kelly, - MukIrish 2021-05-04 19:01:55
    - I think they should build one 50% the size of the others. - Giggity_Giggity 2021-05-04 20:34:59
      - That would be cruel and unusual punishment. - SWPaDem 2021-05-05 07:32:28
- not one (to date) major bowl win over a major program - irishrock 2021-05-04 16:43:14
  - Got our doors blown off in all three playoff games as well. * - G.K.Chesterton 2021-05-04 22:25:22
- I heartily disagree - ACross 2021-05-04 16:22:30
  - But do you strenuously object? * - usmcirish 2021-05-05 11:50:32
  - True, but I place much more of the blame on Swarbrick - garbageplate 2021-05-04 21:41:39
    - Plenty of blame to go around. Jenkins, BoT, other enablers. - irishintheville 2021-05-05 10:15:34
  - Amen. * - Giggity_Giggity 2021-05-04 20:33:56
  - He will be the longest tenured coach at ND without a NC. How - thethinman 2021-05-04 16:30:29
    - Is Kelly Grima Wormtongue? - graNDfan 2021-05-04 16:52:10
      - Yes. The next coaching search should target a real wizard. - Moff 2021-05-04 17:49:20
    - Confederacy of Dunces - NJDoubleDomer 2021-05-04 16:34:30
- Layden .770, BK .730 (including vacated wins)... - Scoop80 2021-05-04 15:25:36
  - Perhaps, but not sure who else would fit in there... - Irisharab 2021-05-04 17:28:32
    - I wouldn't change your order, but - SorinBasement 2021-05-05 08:23:21
    - I agree--BK is #7--big gap from #6, and big gap to #8 * - Scoop80 2021-05-04 21:33:25
  - No UMass, but we did play WashU, Drake, and Pacific, though. * - StetsonDan 2021-05-04 17:16:15
  - How soon we forget. We tied a 1 win GT team in '80. * - 84david 2021-05-04 15:52:17
    - I don't understand your point ... - CJC 2021-05-04 18:39:49
- I struggle to accept that as "success." - MrE 2021-05-04 15:06:55
  - As I said, he's Elmer Layden - El Kabong 2021-05-04 15:07:46
- I think this is right. - mocopdx 2021-05-04 14:44:34
  - That is completely false - ACross 2021-05-04 17:35:44
    - Comparison? - ND75 2021-05-06 14:50:36
    - and let's not overlook the fact - jt 2021-05-05 01:02:47
      - Freeman shows you do not need "recruiting continuity" - jbrown_9999 2021-05-05 09:46:58
        and recruiting continuity would be a key thing to eliminate. * - MrE 2021-05-05 09:52:29