Maybe this is a pipe dream
by buffaloirish (2021-12-01 11:13:38)

I hope that Notre Dame re-thinks its public access to the football program.

I watched 30 seconds of Kelly's initial meeting his players at LSU, and came away with the same feeling provoked by those IKON videos of Kelly's pregame, halftime, and postgame speeches. He's got a template ("standard" "day-to-day" "relative to" among other recycled catch phrases) that he can roll out regardless of the program--GVSU, CMU, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, LSU are all fungible.

Let the next coach at Notre Dame tap into more genuine, organic feelings about the team, our school, his coaches and staff to craft his message--a message unique to Notre Dame and to his own self. Let him say unvarnished words in intense moments of excitement or despair. Let them say a team prayer without it being broadcast on the goddamned video board.

It really wouldn't take much. It all can be filmed for posterity and dumped into the Notre Dame Archives, if they really think that's necessary. But the video editors at Notre Dame (who seem to always think that MORE IS BETTER) need to be directed to exercise restraint. There still will be plenty of content to display on social media and elsewhere.



Agree, and reinstitute the pregame Mass, and the walk from
by other_guy  (2021-12-01 11:38:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the basilica to the stadium.


What if the players don’t want it?
by irishsundevil  (2021-12-01 11:56:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Recruits choose ND know the expectations and traditions. However what if these changes were led by players. Does that matter?


Based on my knowledge of how our players felt about it,
by Moff  (2021-12-01 12:04:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and still feel about it, and how our coaches feel about it (including Lou and Digger, for that matter) I'm going to assume this is purely hypothetical question.


Are you talking current players? Things change. *
by irishsundevil  (2021-12-01 12:19:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Are you talking about any players?
by Moff  (2021-12-01 12:24:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

What is your evidence for your statements?

If any, are you arguing they are okay with it on another day, but have a problem with it on Saturday?

How many players have a problem with it? Why?

When did things change?


I’m not stating anything.
by irishsundevil  (2021-12-01 12:42:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

My point was simple. If the players have made it known, by vote or whatever, they would prefer not to attend mass on game day. Is it worth reinstating?

I have never claimed to know why mass was done away with. However, just asking that if this was driven by the players why force them to go back.


It wasn't by vote of the players or driven by them.
by Moff  (2021-12-01 12:50:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I've never heard anyone even suggest that.

Kelly used it as an excuse for why he could not motivate the team and why they came out flat at home and were beaten by some shitty teams.


This, this, this. *
by revressbo  (2021-12-01 11:52:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Agreeance. The jumbotron prayer is cringe cranked to 11 *
by OCND  (2021-12-01 11:27:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Agreed, well stated
by BmoreIrish  (2021-12-01 11:26:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'm fine if they want to do some prepackaged stuff for social media but player-coach interactions should be sacred.


Excellent post. *
by BIG MAC  (2021-12-01 11:24:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Agree 100% *
by NDde  (2021-12-01 11:19:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Agree, The locker room and meeting rooms should be private
by JBrock18  (2021-12-01 11:17:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and off limits to anyone not in the room at the time on most occasions.


I love ND football but have no need to see this stuff
by irishrock  (2021-12-01 11:16:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Getting into that locker room ought to be reserved for players, coaches, and managers/trainers. I don't even like it when I see JS in there looking like a tool


I agree completely.
by manofdillon  (2021-12-01 11:15:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

No FIDM in the pre-game or halftime speech, no team prayer on the Jacktron. That leaked audio of Kirby Smart's halftime speech from the Georgia-Florida game is the kind of pep talk that gets college kids ready to go rip heads off. You can't do that when some student videographer is recording your every word to provide content for the Watch ND app.