and got beat anyways. The App State upset of Michigan is ranked ahead of the 1926 Carnegie Tech upset, in rankings of greatest upsets of all time. Given the level of bullheadedness and wrong thinking when faced with an unexpected challenge from a lesser opponent, this seems like a more likely scenario for Coach Kelly.
95 years ago. How much did the 4 horsemen earn in television endorsement deals? Do you know offhand.
Let's see the haters deny that!
I can promise you that this board would be even more fucking awesome than usual
is it? Because if it was, we would have a helluva football coach.
...(Sorry, 2ndstreeter, you did beat me to it, but in the spirit of piling on to administer a noogie, I'll leave my redundant comment.)
What exactly is the point of this post?
Erecting a straw man to bitch about perceived negativity?
But,
Are you asking to be launched?
How many teams has Brian Kelly beaten that finished in the Top 10?
It's not anymore.
It’s 3.
2012 Stanford finished #7.
2013 Michigan St. finished #3.
2020 Clemson finished #3.
Our scheduling over the last five seasons has been terrible. Four of the eleven teams on our regular season schedule last year finished the season with a winning record (and two of those teams finished 6-5).
Stanford, USC, FSU and Va Tech have all historically been much better teams. But, when those are all you have, you've got no room for them to have down years without the schedule going to shit.
We're lucky Cincinnati baled our schedule out from being a complete mockery. Of course, we lost to them.
If I was an Ohio State fan, I would've ripped Meyer for the Purdue and Iowa blowouts a few years back. I would rip Dabo for this season if I was a Clemson fan. I would've ripped Holtz for BC 1993 if I was an ND fan then.
The issue isn't an occasional dud or two (though too many, which BK 1.0 had, IS a problem; but BK 2.0 has largely eliminated them). Kelly's issue is the lack of praiseworthy games.
I'm trying to think of the amount of "praiseworthy" BK moments:
2012 Stanford
2012 Oklahoma
2013 Michigan State (which at the time was not, but could maybe be considered one in hindsight, despite it being an ugly and unexciting game)
2014 Michigan
2014 Florida State (despite it being a loss, I thought it was a very well-coached game)
2017 USC
2018 Michigan (though they faded at the end of the year)
2020 Clemson (and, opposite of 2013 MSU, that praise has decreased given the ACC Championship rematch when Clemson was full health/strength, Clemson's buttwhooping at the hands of Ohio State in the CFP and Clemson's performance overall this season without Lawrence).
He's had way too few for 12 years at ND.
I do not consider 10 wins praiseworthy at Notre Dame. I do not consider "in the conversation" praiseworthy at ND. I do not consider not losing to unranked teams praiseworthy. These are necessary, but not sufficient. Winning big games, and ultimately and most importantly, winning a national championship is praiseworthy. Rockne won three national championships and won games at a career clip that literally has never been surpassed in the history of the sport.
Perfection is not expected/demanded. Even Saban has duds like A&M this year. That doesn't mean I wouldn't rip the coach for a dud; I'm a fan, of course I will criticize when I think it's warranted. But I'd be much more likely to accept a game like last year's ACC Championship game or 2017 Miami or 2019 Michigan or 2021 UC (a well-coached, experienced team, but way less talented than ND and in South Bend) or even an occasional season like 2010/2011/2013/2014, but ya gotta give me something. Give me a CFP semifinal win. Give me more than three final-ranking AP-top 10 wins in 11 seasons (Holtz had 15 in his 11 seasons). A national championship of course, would basically cure all ills.
BK's credits exceed his debits.
He needs some deposits.
It doesn't matter if some credits aren't his fault, he blew the balance early on and hasn't done a lot to replenish.
But this takes it to a new level.
Good luck on better posts in the future.
And fill out a profile.
wile actually being the coach who brought the forward pass to ND, not a guy named Kelly?
Yeah if he could perform at that level I think he might get a mulligan. However he doesn’t even sniff that air and has compiled a list of boneheaded decisions and statements that have sealed his chance of ever reaching such deserved admiration.
I think we'd all be over the bleeping moon.
Then Brian might actually get the statue.
He swung at a hanging curve.
be pretty funny.
How are the statue plans progressing?
Would that mean that Kelly's ND teams would have been 8-0 having only allowed SEVEN points the entire season to that point?
Yeah, ND had outscored it's opponents 197-7 in the first 8 games including shutting out Army, Penn State, Georgia Tech and Indiana.
After losing to Carnegie Tech, they went out west and beat USC to finish 9-1.
Ten games. 9-1. Surrendered a season total of 39 pts.
ND defeated three top 10 teams that season, all on the road, and two by shutout.
Yeah. I'll take that. Brian Kelly, if you're listening, I will defend your ass to the death if you do that.
You’ve won the award for dumbest post in the history of this board.
Yeah, we are so mean to Brian Kelly. Only in retrospect will we truly appreciate him.
It takes a unique convergence of stupid and asshole-liness to initiate the launch codes. Rest assured that Board Ops is acutely in tune with the edges of that envelope.