the first step should be drastic staff and salary cuts in
by ACross (2020-07-08 20:58:20)
Edited on 2020-07-08 21:00:57

In reply to: The P5 will go down kicking and screaming, but  posted by NDFanSince81


athletic deparments and football staffs.

Our resident Trumploving Kelleylover Roccogluesniffer will disagree



That's already happening *
by weirdo0521  (2020-07-09 13:28:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Hold on
by Ty Webb  (2020-07-09 10:14:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Rocco likes Trump AND Kelly?


I think that Stanford has shown the first step
by Jt  (2020-07-08 23:25:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Cut a whole bunch of other sports.

This is unwise, IMO. Most of these sports are non scholarship, and by cutting these sports they might lose tuition paying students. Overall, the cost might be greater than the savings at schools other than Stanford, Notre Dame, Ivy league, etc.


No one goes to Stanford to major in synchronized swimming,
by ND_Rumpus  (2020-07-08 23:53:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

nor will they suffer a net loss on tuition-paying student by cutting this sport. I think there are 4 colleges total that sponsored this in 2019, no one would even notice if this entire sport disappeared entirely.


ah, but lots of kids go to D1 schools to play baseball
by jt  (2020-07-08 23:57:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and baseball only gives a total of 11 scholarships for 35 players.

Boise State cut baseball last week and it will be a net loss for them in doing so, because those kids will likely go and pay tuition at a different school.

There are other sports that are similar; nobody was really talking about synchronized swimming, rumpus.


Let's look at what Stanford cut.
by ND_Rumpus  (2020-07-09 00:12:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"The sports that will be eliminated are: men’s and women’s fencing, field hockey, lightweight rowing, men’s rowing, co-ed and women’s sailing, squash, synchronized swimming, men’s volleyball and wrestling."

I concede that I was out of line in choosing the dumbest of these sports to crap on, but none of these sports have any value whatsoever in terms of revenue or potential future professional achievement.

Fencing and wrestling probably have the most value among these in terms of merit from a classical education perspective but Stanford will have no problem filling any openings caused by eliminating these sports with other students paying full-boat.

I agree that marginal schools like Boise State will not have the same luxury that Stanford does and will lose out on students by not offering some sports.


rumpus, you're missing the forest through the trees
by jt  (2020-07-09 00:22:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

what Stanford cut doesn't have much to do with the fact that they cut things and other schools will likely also start by cutting sports.

They can't cut sports that they don't have. They can and will cut sports that they do have.


Correct. The takeaway here is that Stanford, which...
by FL_Irish  (2020-07-09 08:22:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...(a) is rich as shit relative to most institutions of higher learning and (b) has based its entire athletic identity on excellence in a broad number of sports with unparalleled success, feels that it can no longer financially justify supporting that number of sports.

Other institutions that have fewer sports (but also less money), will reach similar conclusions and won’t have synchronized swimming to cut.

As an example, over 40 college tennis programs have already been cut since the pandemic hit.


BTW, Stanford has a $27 billion endowment
by jbrown_9999  (2020-07-09 08:48:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And decided that it could not afford a deficit of tens of millions for its athletic programs