It’s ISU’s Super Bowl...
by Scoop80 (2019-12-27 15:58:01)
Edited on 2019-12-27 16:16:38

In reply to: Here's one story I don't want to read on December 29th  posted by El Kabong


I hadn’t thought about this before, but BK 2.0 has featured 1 quality win (LSU at same venue) and 3 total blowout losses and an 18 pt loss away from du Lac. There was the nice try at GA.

There’s no comparison between the rosters, but there are reasons why it is only a 3.5 point spread.


FWIW, the advanced analytics really like ND in this matchup
by ndzippy  (2019-12-27 16:17:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Sagarin's golden mean approach favors ND by 6.64 points. ESPN's FPI favors ND by 6.27. FEI likes ND by 6.6.

ThePredictionTracker.com has collected 55 predictions from various models; here are the highlights:

- Mean Prediction: ND by 6.51 points
- Median Prediction: ND by 6.64 points
- Min Prediction: ND loses by 0.95 points
- Max Prediction: ND wins by 13.40 points

Of the 55 prediction models:

- 7 have ND winning by double-digits
- 25 have ND winning by 7 points or more
- 46 have ND covering the point spread
- 54 have ND winning the game

In other words, ND should absolutely win this game (this level of consensus is pretty rare).

If the names were stripped off of these two teams and the betting numbers stayed where they are, the pros would be hammering ND +3.5. The fact that that's not happening, and that the point spread has been stable for so long, is pretty weird. This might be one of those cases where Vegas just knows something that the public doesn't.

If you'd like, you can check the numbers out yourself at the link below.


FEI is the #1 predictor in 2019 per the site you mentioned. (link)
by G.K.Chesterton  (2019-12-27 17:38:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


It's more than that.
by mocopdx  (2019-12-27 16:09:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If every game Iowa State played in were ISU +3.5, they would've covered against #4 Oklahoma, #7 Baylor, and #16 Iowa.

We should win this game, but this is about as good as a 7-5 team can be. 3.5 seems right to me, and I don't think it has to do with our history.

Tomorrow is going to suck. We might lose. We'll likely win with something like a 24-20 game. It'll be boring, frustrating, and a true lose-lose situation.

With that said, I'm getting up at 8AM for a 14 hour day of drinking and Brian Kelly can't stop me.


You can’t drink all day
by shawno3  (2019-12-27 18:42:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If you don’t start in the morning.


I'm familiar w/ ISU's season...
by Scoop80  (2019-12-27 16:15:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I saw the ends of their losses to IA and to OU. My point was that ND's history would be a factor (among others) to logically take into account in setting this spread.