Agree/disagree: Kelly isn’t an elite coach and never will be

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Agree - Perhaps an elite college GM but not coach * - doghoused 2018-12-30 12:03:18
Agree. * - Grace91 2018-12-30 11:45:25
Not now, not ever * - Camarillo Brillo 2018-12-30 11:27:21
By your definition - D8NDomer 2018-12-30 11:19:44
It is blindingly obvious that he is not and never will be * - guinness1940 2018-12-30 11:01:25
Agree - wearendhockey 2018-12-30 10:56:03
I believe he had elite talent in 2015 and still managed to - OldIrishFan 2018-12-30 10:54:18
- 2015 helps prove my post below. BVG killed him - btd 2018-12-30 10:59:13
Only one way it can ever happen: elite coordinators and by - btd 2018-12-30 10:52:30
It is blindingly obvious that he is not and never will be * - guinness1940 2018-12-30 10:48:05
Always have agreed * - The Flash 2018-12-30 10:46:10
I no longer agree. - wbroder1 2018-12-30 10:35:15
We have a nine year history which answers that.....Agree... * - Wolfetone 2018-12-30 10:35:02
Agree x 10. - BeastOfBourbon 2018-12-30 10:34:30
He’s as good as John Cooper or Lloyd Carr - meatwhistle 2018-12-30 10:24:44
- Kelly will be here at least 5 more years * - btd 2018-12-30 11:00:00
Kelly can and has won some pretty big games. - mustangman 2018-12-30 10:23:32
- No he hasn’t. Cite the end of year rank - airborneirish 2018-12-30 10:25:41
  - It depends on your definition - luckymcd 2018-12-30 17:45:07
  - In 2012, OK on the road. - mustangman 2018-12-30 10:50:00
    - The request was for end-of-year rankings and you provided - tdiddy07 2018-12-30 11:17:21
    - That Oklahoma team finished #15 with 3 losses. - MackerelSnappingAnarchist 2018-12-30 11:16:28
  - The best team he has beaten - Groundhog 2018-12-30 10:47:34
Agree - RallyingSon 2018-12-30 10:18:39
Brian Kelly has achieved what Bob Davie could only dream of - KevinG 2018-12-30 10:06:15
Brian Kelly is an above average coach and recruiter - faustfever 2018-12-30 09:53:19
Not elite. Good coach, though. - Bruno95 2018-12-30 09:50:17
- Disagree - nd71 2018-12-30 10:21:27
  - But you're cherrypicking - Cheg80 2018-12-30 10:53:21
    - And those non-elite coaches at ND were fired - Camarillo Brillo 2018-12-30 11:33:39
      - Only Parseghian left under his own terms. - Cheg80 2018-12-30 12:08:48
        Unfortunately it's a moot point - Camarillo Brillo 2018-12-30 12:41:02
    - Leaving aside my unstated implication that BK's - nd71 2018-12-30 11:08:45
      - Devine was not an elite coach. - Cheg80 2018-12-30 11:15:45
        Devine's record vs elite teams was near elite; BK is 0-for. * - nd71 2018-12-30 11:22:35
If we recover fumble and Love not hurt, does it change? - Nd2011 2018-12-30 09:35:21
- Score would have been closer - Cheg80 2018-12-30 10:22:54
- Nope * - HTownND 2018-12-30 09:54:04
- No * - Bruno95 2018-12-30 09:50:33
Agree - graNDfan 2018-12-30 09:34:14
Agree - captaineclectic 2018-12-30 09:27:38
- This is (unfortunately) quite accurate - Hipster 2018-12-30 10:27:46
Kelly is not an elite coach - pmcdnd96 2018-12-30 09:25:19
To be fair. Who is saying he is an elite coach? - bill_brasky 2018-12-30 09:15:04
- Outside of this board? A lot of people - pmcdnd96 2018-12-30 09:30:31
  - 2009 and 2015 ND teams were closest to Clemson now - Nd2011 2018-12-30 10:00:39
- Trace Armstrong * - Hipster 2018-12-30 09:24:46
  - Trace probably knows he isn’t elite * - dwjm3 2018-12-30 09:32:53
- Unfortunately, many superfans. - RallyingSon 2018-12-30 09:24:07
- I’m sure a few fanboys will still cling to him - dwjm3 2018-12-30 09:17:09
  - He is National Coach of the Year, after all * - ndzippy 2018-12-30 09:25:35
Agree - pvm333 2018-12-30 09:14:53
How could anybody disagree? - ndzippy 2018-12-30 09:12:16
Agree * - NDEE01 2018-12-30 09:05:08
Agree; 2012 and 2018 are his ceiling * - GreenMonstah 2018-12-30 09:05:07
Agree—not elite - skeptic 2018-12-30 09:04:34
Agree. - IrishJosh24 2018-12-30 09:00:49
- Having such attributes would at least offset being - ShermanOaksND 2018-12-30 09:07:05
Agree: Kelly is not an elite coach - dwjm3 2018-12-30 08:58:47
Agree * - acrossdmiddle 2018-12-30 08:57:26