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Wednesday, December 03, 2008

It Just Goes to Show

posted by Mike Coffey
Show what, I'm not at all sure.

Nothing, it seems, has been what it seems for the last couple weeks. Charlie Weis was fired, and then he was not. Jack Swarbrick was meeting with him next Monday, then it became last Tuesday when both were jetting around four time zones on the left coast. A presser became a release. Status quo became buyout financing became "responsible stewardship of university resources", and now Weis gets a continuance.

The inveterate straw-grasper in me sees plenty of lawyer-speak in that link. The release doesn't say Charlie Weis will be ND's coach in 2009, only that he will "continue" in the role, with Swarbrick "examining every aspect of the program" and making changes where he "think[s] they are needed". Plenty of ambiguity there, or at least enough to keep my soul from sinking, and we still have an epic tilt against the likes of, as Lou would say, the University of Rice to look forward to over the holidays before all's said and done.

Could this be the most Machiavellian approach to the AD chair we've seen since Gene Corrigan was in the house? Perhaps. Was retaining Charlie Weis truly the best option, based on a lack of a "home-run hire" being available? Maybe. Does Charlie know enough to, once again, go into the off-season ready to correct the errors of the previous fall? I guess.

Trouble with all that is, when you've had to dip the bucket into the well of patience as many times as ND fans have in the last 15 years, eventually all you hear is the thud of it hitting the sides. I'd love to give Jack Swarbrick and Fr. John Jenkins the benefit of the doubt here, but 50 times bitten, 51 times shy, I suppose.

At the moment when Swarbrick seemed truly to be examining all his options while waiting on a December 8th appointment, the entire process short-circuited, resulting in a piece of paper issued from the Joyce Center. It's hard not to think about how we've seen all this before. Look kids, Big Ben ... Parliament ... you noticing all this plight?

We should, I suppose, be grateful for small mercies. Swarbrick's predecessor would have attempted a press conference, and it doesn't take a lot of imagination to visualize the train wreck Mr. "Sunday through Friday" would have wrought. But that's cold comfort as I sit in the December chill wondering how the Decided Schematic Advantage is going to be realized, knowing I most likely am going to spend the next 11 months refereeing online fights about what "real ND fans" do/think/want or don't.

But hey, I'm all about chances, right? As of this typing, Charlie Weis is ND's football coach next year. So it's time to stop talking about what could happen and start talking about what damn well better happen, including some capital-R Realizations:

Number one, a head coach is not a special teams helper or a quarterbacks coach or a play-caller. He's a head coach, and he has other people on his staff to handle those other responsibilities. Notre Dame is not a place for those skills to be learned, but rather honed, and if you can't delegate what needs to be delegated, you won't do anything well.

Number two, what works in the NFL doesn't necessarily work in college. When you're not limited to 20 hours a week with your charges and aren't required to provide tutelage in fundamentals as well as scheme, you can get a hell of a lot more done. If you can't dumb it down and have it still work, you need to bring someone in to help you do it.

Number three, you're not going to get anywhere unless you listen. Not give lip service to listening, really listen. As the saying goes, A-level folks hire (and, by extension, listen to) other A-level folks. B-levels and below are afraid to "look weak" or otherwise allow themselves to grow, so they won't have themselves challenged. I don't know whether he needs security or patience or what, but the days of my-way-or-the-highway have to go, because this highway is leading us right to the gates of Hell. Find staffers willing to challenge you and put new ideas out there, and show you're willing to consider what they say.

Fourth, it's time to put your money where your mouth is. So much talk about the sizable buyout keeping you shackled to South Bend, are you willing to walk the walk and announce you've reached an agreement with ND to waive the buyout as of September 1, 2009. You're asking the fans to work without a net here in trusting you can change. How about inching out onto that limb with us?

That's a level of self-evaluation that must happen here, because without it, none of my requirements for 2009 will be met. What are those requirements? Glad you asked.

Win whatever third-tier bowl game ND ends up in this year. I'd also prefer some evidence it's going to be a good long time before we have to worry about a win or the venue, but I'll settle for Weis not becoming the first coach ever to have back-to-back losing seasons and still stay in his job.

Keep the recruiting class together, and add the likes of Xavier Nixon, Manti T'eo, and Jelani Jenkins. If recruiting truly is saving his behind, it'd better keep up.

Create an OL that could successfully block my grandmother, both on the ground and in pass protection. I don't give a damn what our pass/run play call mix is, but in situations where we absolutely have to do one or the other, we need to be able to do it successfully. A decent running game would have meant at least two more wins this year and two more not-so-close games. Lack of depth and stars isn't the case anymore.

On the raw W/L side, 11 wins, at least 10 of them in the regular season. Devil-like details would include no losses by more than 10 points, and that includes Southern Cal, and at least three wins by more than 21 points. It's time for the championship recruiting classes to become a championship team, and Weis is in the red on mulligans as it is.

If he's going to stay, that's what he needs. Otherwise, Swarbrick should spend the next 11 months getting the Tier-One hire on the line, because like it or not, Jack's now inexorably tied to Weis. Will he take him to new heights or pull him into the abyss with him? Only Weis' hypothetical knee doctor knows for sure.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those expectations are all nice in theory, however, there is no reason to believe they will come to fruition. Weis didn't meet our demands this year, so let's raise them and hope they come true next year.

Or else what? Then we'll REALLY be mad? It's past pathetic.

Like you, El K, I wish all those things would happen. They just aren't realistic. Weis has never won 11 games. Not even with a roster full of NFL prospects. What makes you think he'll turn a bunch of skeptics into a great team?

We blew it, and it will set us back another year.


12/03/2008 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The die has hjas been cast. Swarbrick was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Take a crummy coach (who somehow can recruit) and replace him with what? There's really nobody on the market that can handle this position.

Swarbrick and company are not off the hook. They need to rein in Charlie and control who is on his staff. He needs an offensive line coach. And Weis should not be the person who should make the final call. Swarbrick should form an advisory council from some of our alumns that know a thing our two about the game like Montan, Thiesman, Bettis, Zorich and Clements. THey should be part of the staff hiring process and should have veto power over who is on CW's staff. If Charlie doesn't like it he can resign.

12/03/2008 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

getting rid of some of the dead weight on his staff should also be a requirement.

12/03/2008 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Brian said...

How many starters were true freshmen or true sophomores? As everyone writes, the season is won/lost in the off-season. Most of the starters have had at the most a single off-season to develop, while playing against guys who have had three or four off-seasons of development. That leads to a burst out of the gate, but wearing down as the season progresses - just like we saw.

Have patience, realize the timeline is longer than we'd like, but that it's coming around. The team will pick it up next year and be nasty the year after and onward.

12/03/2008 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger Wonder Boy said...

I think this is all a charade. It needed to be said or ND had no shot at a recruiting class. Every kid would have doubts planted about whether the man that recruited them would actually be there to coach them.

I still don't think he will be. He does not deserve to be. He needs to go back and work in the glow of the football genius known as Belichek. Sorry, Charlie

12/03/2008 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be fascinating to watch what will happen if ND loses its bowl game, especially if it loses to Rice and convincingly at that. The uproar will be just as loud as it was after they lost to Syracuse.

12/03/2008 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous nbaynd said...

I must say that I got caught up with some of the "inside" information that I heard, which was collaborated by other sources- Info. Such as: Meyer, Gruden, Davis, and Kelly have been contacted. Meyer and Gruden have expressed interest as well as Kelly. Meyer seemed to be a wait and see after the FL Bama game. Gruden heading to the playoffs...long wait for ND maybe worth the wait... but to have it all end by Tue?? What the hell happened? Like you Mike, I only have the lawyer speak to cling to now and when we lose the "fill in the blank bowl", maybe Jack will surprise us all and "make changes where he "think[s] they are needed." Yes, a pathetic grasp I know but I find it provides a bit of comfort, when the reality of another year with CW is beginning to set in.

12/03/2008 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel like it's extremely important for a program to have a bit of stability. If we continue to be impatient and fire coaches every 3-4 years when they haven't achieved all we want them to, I don't think we will ever get to where we are hoping to be. Everyone here was on the Weis bandwagon his first two years, then all of a sudden he has two bad years with a team full of Willingham's AWFUL recruiting efforts, and we want him gone?

I've been as skeptical of Weis' ability to coach as many of you have, but I think a firing this year is premature, given the ages of his players. You all worry about the present or losing a year, but the truth is that building a program takes time. There are some stories where everything works out just perfectly in a coach's first couple years, but most of the time it takes longer than that.

12/03/2008 05:53:00 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

Remember when we thought a 2009 championship run was assured?

It's very difficult to imagine this team being substantially better next year.

12/03/2008 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets not bring up how many starters are freshmen or sophomores. Georgia Tech had 16 underclassmen start this year with a new head coach. And what did they do? Currently ranked 15 after beating Georgia on the road in a key rivalry game. Oh yeah and that head coach, same one who beat Charlie last year with a roster full of no name recruits. Maybe great coaching is more important than great recruiting. Though wouldnt it be nice to have both again????

12/03/2008 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger Zombie Stomp 94 said...

Good idea...let's have an AD who is new to the job determine the staff, etc. for a guy who's biggest flaw is that he is learning to be a college head coach. Swarbrick should call plays too.

A council of ex-heroes to approve what Charlie does...another good idea.

Come on, Irish. I am onboard with the frustration with the programs results but let's start talking some sense; and I don't mean call Cowher or Coughlin. Maybe Lou or Ara have something left in the tank.

It's time for real answers and educated discussion. I applaud ND for doing what they had to do which was settle the situation. Charlie has to go 9-3 next year and show development and direction or he will be gone. In the meantime, it gives us 12 months to start looking at future plans without a gun to our head and without public ridicule.

12/03/2008 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just take a look at the last three decades of Notre Dame football. Faust, Holtz, Davie, Willingham, O'Leary, and Weis - only one of those selections turned out to be a good one. If you take the Holtz years out of the equation, ND wins about 58% of its games. Isn't that what Charlie's winning percentage is? Maybe its time we realize "we are what we are" - which is just an average football program. Stop the daydreaming that we are going to be able to hire a "tier 1" coach.

12/03/2008 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

weis has not won with a roster full of NFL prospects? exactly who might those players be besides 1 first round pick (quinn) and a couple of 2nds and 3rds does not exactly lead me to believe that weis has been working with a star studded cast. i would have given him next year merely on the fact that the team comes back almost intact because every skill position player is a freshman or sophmore and unlike the previous coach Weis actually tries to work hard to correct things rather than spending the day finding the best tee time.

12/03/2008 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an ND alum, I am really enjoying watching Oklahoma these days. I think that's who I'll be watching until the nightmare is over. I want to be loyal, but I can only stomach so much...

12/03/2008 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Ol'Bull'71 said...

I agree with throwing some oil on the turbulent seas, especially regarding recruiting.
But I have to believe the "due diligence" (more lawyer speak) is being done, and likey with Charlie on board, regarding a HC replacement.
His assistant replacements, or lack there-of, will be revealing.

12/03/2008 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Charlie simply does not know how to motivate or inspire young men. Additionally, he does not get the most out of his talent nor has he shown the ability to improve a team over the course of a season. The second half collapses generally demonstrate that he is being outcoached as well.

He needs to be replaced. Any feelers that ND put out to Meyer or other accomplished coaches must have been rejected. Weis is continuing with the only hope of landing a third straight top recruiting class that can latter be developed by a much better coach in 2010. The record will improve next year, but the fundamental issues will remain.

I only hope in 2010 that ND hires a coach with a proven track record (a la Lou Holtz).

12/03/2008 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous www.southbendblarney.com said...

The team must shoe dramatic improvement in the trenches. A running game would turn this team into a BCS worthy one.

I just don't know it the line will turn around. I am beginning to wonder if it has anything to do with strength training or Latina either. Maybe the recruits were just overrated? Sam Young doesn't show much athleticism, and I wonder how many o-line recruits were actually recruited by a program that is near the top right now (Young and Romine for sure, but who else?). It seems like Weis signed a bunch of "4 star" guys that were only offered by programs like Rutgers.

12/03/2008 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget about our o-line being able to block your grandma, maybe your great grandma but your grandma no way

12/03/2008 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Haganomics said...

Brian I couldn't agree more. You cannot win if you have freshman and sophomores playing key roles. Look what Tebow and Harvin did as sophomores. Bradford and Murray are having crappy seasons this year. Crabtree stinks and so does Moreno.

Let's not pretend that all of a sudden Claussen is going to lead this team to a BCS win just because he is a year older. Obviously a little more experience will help, but plenty of programs are winning with underclassmen. That isn't why we faded at the end of year. We faded because we have a coach that cannot motivate and two lines that get worked every week.

12/03/2008 06:58:00 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

I gotta agree with ZombieStomp on this one. I'm an ND grad. and lifelong fan of the program, but anytime things start to go bad the fans have a tendency to start bringing up the ghosts....

Holtz, Montana, Theismann, Zorich, etc....these guys are NOT the answer to the program's woes. Yes, we certainly want to replicate the success that ND's program had when these guys were here, but other than talking about the past, these guys don't offer much.

ND and Swarbrick did what was right for the program by quickly announcing that Weis would return. I'm not sold on Charlie anymore, but this was the right thing to do. He's already started to assemble a very good recruiting class, and these guys would have jumped ship had ND prolonged this entire thing. Trying to convince guys to stay along because Meyer or Gruden or whoever else people have mentioned might come is unrealistic. Of course, as fans, we're also tired of having the offseason recruiting rankings be the only time we see ND's name on the leaderboard. Next year should be the year that we demand more.

Next year, there's no more blaming anyone associated with Willingham (though I'm not really sure who was actually left from his time here anyways). Next year Weis's first full effort recruiting class will be upperclassmen, and it's time to put up or shut up. If Charlie's got a grand scheme, then 3 years of being in his system should certainly be enough time to implement it.

Comparisons to other programs is ridiculous. If Notre Dame's program is so special, then we have to recognize that it presents things special, both good and bad. I'm not defending Charlie in full. I think next year is an important year for him to demonstrate real progress. I tend to agree that, especially with our schedule, 9-10 wins is a MUST. I think it's equally important that we look A LOT more competitive in the USC game. For the past couple of years it's been really bad, and frankly I'd like people to stop having to refer to Charlie's "almost win" versus USC be his greatest accomplishment.

For the time being though, what was right for the program was not to panic and immediately start chasing pipedreams. Good luck Charlie, you're officially on notice (if you weren't before).

12/03/2008 07:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

haganomics - it's true that many teams are winning with underclassmen in key positions. the difference here is that ALL of our key positions are filled by underclassmen. the other teams you mentioned a stocked full of experience throughout the roster outside of the one or two you mention.

12/03/2008 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the Cleveland Browns will make a run at Charlie for their head coach after their season and take care of this problem for us. His past success is in the pros and that would certainly give him an easier way to exit this stage.

12/03/2008 07:39:00 PM  
Blogger borromini said...

Most of these posts are getting tiresome. The same negative remarks over and over again. Even after it's been made clear that at least Charlie's here for 2009, we end up seeing the same complaints that we've read the last two weeks.

I'm taking a break from these sites and wait for the bowl game and see what one month and lots of speculation does to this team. And then I'm going to wait for 9 more months and see what Charlie has in store for us.


12/03/2008 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was an excellent article by Mike Coffey. If the people who want to keep Weis are right, you know what??? It will be the first time in the History of the Notre Dame Football Program that patience with a belegured coach (who has been in place for more than a year or two) has EVER,EVER been rewarded by consistent future success. In EVERY other case in the past, the negative judgement of the fans has been correct and the decision to give another year or two has just caused more pain and stagnation in the Program and the coach had to go in the end. It is painful to fire a guy who works hard and obviously love Notre Dame, but Chemotherapy is painful too but is done for a beneficial result. Charlie's place in life is to be a VERY successful offensive coordinator in the NFL and maybe eventually a successful head there. Regards,

Roman Three

12/03/2008 08:13:00 PM  
Blogger Regular Guy said...

Great decision by the ND administration. Change 3 plays this season and the Irish are 9-3 and headed to a mid-level bowl and Charlie Weis is still a genius just like he was when he was pounding Penn State two years ago. Do any of you boo birds think that maybe you're part of the problem? Hearing this negative crap all the time must have a bad effect on the players.
OK, ND has made its decision. So let's get behind the team and the coach. Look for them to knock off a respectable team in a bowl, as a stepping stone to a great season next year. Go Irish!

12/03/2008 08:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I grew up in Nebraska, (not a Husker fan, but an Irish fan), for years I had to listen to Husker fans moaning about Osborne, how he will never win the big one, never be a Devaney. They would moan if they didn’t win every game of their weak schedule by seventy points, and would end up losing to Oklahoma every year or lose their bowl game in Florida. I always respected the University for staying with Osborne all those years even with the fans drooling for a Devaney or a Switzer. Before long Osborne started winning the big ones and eventually won three national titles, before it was all over he won over 83% of his games. The most amazing thing through all this was his coaching staff was virtually unchanged through all those years; stability and loyalty.

After he retired, his long time assistant (19 years) Frank Solich was hired as head coach, He was 58-19 in six years, beat Texas in the big 12 championship game in his second year and won the Fiesta bowl. His last year he was 9-3 and lost his job, Nebraska has been searching for an identity ever since.

The ignorant whining little red husker fans, fair weathered as they come lashed out the University, its AD and coaches. Solich worked 26 years of his life for those loser fans and he got canned.

Remember when all of a sudden Joe Paterno from 2000-2004 W/L 26-33, and a 3-9 season, forgot how to coach. Look at him now.

I was proud of ND today when I read that Weis was staying on.

Don’t become a whining little red fan, the bottom of the barrel. Weis works hard and deserves to stay on, he should be held accountable, but he deserves our support.

Go Irish!

Leo T

12/03/2008 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Slow clap. I could not agree more. I hope to God that Weis knows what he is doing,but I fear I know the answer already.

12/03/2008 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agree on the 'requirements' except that it should be 9 regular season wins, and simply keeping the recruiting class together, maybe with 1 addition. Keeping the #7 class off a 3-9 followed by 6-6 campaign? pretty amazing in and of itself. if we added just Te'o, i'd be really stoked. Really, any 1 of those 3. i doubt we'll get any, and pray we keep Wood, Evans, Watt and Stockton on board. i also think we need another DL prospect, but it's not looking good there at all.

12/03/2008 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave it alone, gang. You all want to discard the coach everytime things don't go our way. Do us all a favor. Shelve it till next August when you can start complaining again. In the meanwhile, go back to your day jobs.

12/03/2008 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "Brian" and any others posting comments about 1st and 2nd year players and enough patience etc.

Get a fricking clue. 4 years my friends with 3 top recruiting classes. And each season has degenerated as the season wound down. That is bad coaching, period. Nothing else.

Tressel, Holtz, Meyer, Stoops, Saban, Carroll. All won a national championship within 3 years with sub-par recruiting (except maybe Meyer).

Could someone ban anymore posters who claim this patience and youth BS.

12/03/2008 09:27:00 PM  
Blogger Indy Irish said...

El K, I do feel for you having to "referee" and babysit the board for the next 12 months.

Just keep the faith....remember, without Faust year 5, there would have been no Lou.

12/03/2008 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Scranton Dave said...

There is something most of you are overlooking. Not to make excuses but through the UNC game this team looked like it was making progress, but we ended up with a tough loss. The Washington game doesnt count, then we blew a 2 TD lead to lose a tough one in 4 OTs to Pitt and we were never the same after that. I dont think the team quit, but the way we lost to UNC and Pitt just took all the air out of the balloon and they were never the same after that. The OLINe play and Clausens play was much worse after that. I still think as Ive been saying on here all year that there is big leap potential next year and I have been somewhat of an apologist for Charlie this year, but I wont be next year. Somebody posted 9-3 next year, but that wont be good enough for me. At the very least 10-2 with what looks to be an easy schedule, and we know 10-2 gets us into a BCS Bowl and if we dont win it had better be competitive. P.S. Pat Forde is a moron

12/03/2008 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shocked, dismayed, speechless, dispondent....just a few adjectives that come to mind. How did we go from evaluate the program...to he's our guy in 2 days. If this is solely to give CW a chance at recruiting, why? ND is getting the rep on the recruiting trail of being the place where top 100 recruits go to fade away.

I can't for the life of me understand the line of logic that says keep this guy? Let's review:

1) Nine for the last 26--great for a clean up hitter in major league baseball, somebody please tell the AD that we are playing football.
2) One team on this year's schedule had superior talent--he managed to lose 6.
3) Blew 3 second half leads of 10+.
4) The program is a laughingstock of College Football.
5) Destroyed the confidence of the starting QB.
6) Lost the team down the stretch.
7) Proud of the fact that team started a fight before SC game and then proceeded to get their heads handed to them--this type of motivation and action is an embarrassment to the school.
8) After 12 games the offense does not have an identity.

Please fire him after we lose the bowl game...I can't take another year with no hope and watching the games with detatched curiousity.


12/03/2008 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't agree with #1, look at OSU, Tressel is OC and they are in top ten every yr.

12/03/2008 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, SouthBendBlarney don't diss the Rutgers OL. They can block! Otherwise your views on our recruiting sounds right. We have a bunch of prep school prima donnas that can't play with the street kids.

12/03/2008 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I truly believe that urban meyer will be here one day...it's just a matter of time.

Unless CW can pull off a miracle and get ND back to where it belongs...

I totally disagree with the national persona that ND will never be back on top...

I"m sorry, and I dont mean any dispresect to Norman, Colombus, Tallahasse, Gainsesville, but have you actually been to those cities...not much there...19 year olds arent interested in weather and girls...not football players...they are looking for exposure and what school gives them the best shot at the nfl...and folks..this is notre dame...

we are just in a down cycle...

Look at usc in the 90's? they sucked huge eggs...

so dont tell me we wont be back...we will...

all the great programs go through down cycles..and hell..even cw had two bcs teams..

Just give it time

but man..would I have loved to see Urban here...next year...

soon my friends...very soon.

12/04/2008 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so glad Charlie is returning next year. We'll be treated with new ways to hit lows. Maybe (folks it's a maybe...) We might even get to zero wins next year. Think about that! Let's keep our fingers crossed; Hopefully Charlie can use the 2008 Detroit Lions as a role models.

12/04/2008 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Joe said...

One thing that few people mention is that Weis has clearly lost this team. I find that more disturbing than the losses, which I can take (I had them at 7-5 this year anyway). His QB is a shell of what he was against Purdue. The rest of the guys, with a few exceptions, are just going through the motions. This seems to be a product of the pick to began the second half at North Carolina, when things really started to turn. But why hasn't Weis been able to bring them back? Aside from the horrible coaching and play-calling, this team has quit on him. For that reason alone, he needs to go.

12/04/2008 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger TCNDFan said...

Sometimes you have to do things "by the numbers." What I mean by that is that there are times you must take certain steps to try and fix an employee problem even if you suspect it might not be fixable. Then when you have to terminate someone you are on solid ground and can say you tried every remedy before giving up. Swarbrick said that he will have Charlie make some changes, some of which will be obvious and some which won't. We don't know what they are, but I suspect we'll see some significant changes among Charlie's assistants. Add to all this the probability that there are no "home run" hires available right now to take over the program. As much as I would like to see Weis go, this is probably the best course of action. Weis will be on a very hot seat and, if Swarbrick is as shrewd as we all hope he is, he'll be using the time between now and the end of the '09 season to turn over every stone to find our next head coach. I don't agree with the theory that says doing anything is better than doing nothing. If you're going to create the upheaval that comes from hiring a 4th head coach in 7 years, you better be as sure as you can that the next one is THE ONE. I'm not real optimistic about Weis, but keeping him may be the only viable option at the present.

12/04/2008 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Swarbrick's a bright guy:
1. He showed support for Weis, but was clear that he and others will be thoroughly reviewing every coaching aspect of Weis and his management team. There will be assistant coaching changes this winter, most likely a month or two after signing day.
2. He's certainly retained a team to explore possible successors to Weis and have a plan in place to make the change toward the end of next season if Weis still doesn't "get it."
3. Two old saws from the ages: 1)
"Things change, people don't." 2) "Things work out best for the people to make the best of the way things work out."
4. Hang in there. Swarbrick stands head and shoulders over White. Notre Dame now knows what it needs in a coach and will succeed the next hire. AB '68

12/04/2008 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Notre Dame Football is an unqualified joke. I've been coming to games since 1980 when I was 7 years old. This is a disgrace piled upon a disgrace.

Notre Dame, at an administrative level, doesn't want to win any more. We are Northwestern. We are Harvard. Great academic institutions who look at football as a club sport, except we at ND still have delusions of national championships.

A real football program would have fired Weis after the loss to Navy last year, or to Syracuse this year. A real football program would not even think about accepting a bowl bid this year.

To use another "Vacation" movie quote:

"Take a look around you, Ellen! We're at the threshold of HELL!"

This football program deserves EXACTLY what it is going to get, which is ending up right back here next year with the exact same problems.

Gutless cowards.

12/04/2008 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous SoCal Domer said...

Phil Fulmer as Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line anyone?

12/04/2008 01:40:00 PM  

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