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there are a couple of things I would build on here by jt

1) Swarbrick and the board (including Father Jenkins) are the bigger problem than the football coach.

I would imagine that you, I, and A-crow agree on that one.

2) While Kelly does not appear to be a championship coach, I would probably argue that if we had watered down the schedule and allowed for the exceptions that we have allowed for Kelly, likely Davie and possibly Weis would have had similar levels of success at ND. Willingham was completely lousy.


I would add my own thoughts here--I don't dislike Kelly as much as others seem to, mainly because I don't think that he's the problem. I disagree with his need to always try and add nonsense like field turf, jumbotrons, etc. and I think that he has poor taste. His offensive system isn't my favorite, and he's struggled to put together a competent staff at times. However, it's the whole attitude of the place that turns me off and makes me turn the channel. I don't really consider myself that much of a fan of the program these days and honestly if it wasn't for this community I would probably tune out entirely. ND comes off as a has been looking for the easiest possible way to win while trying to maintain this aura of "doing things the right way" that just comes off as completely phoney.