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I'm fine with calling it "great". by revressbo

It looked like it could've been monumental and historic, but in the basis of hindsight, it clearly was not. They destroyed us at full strength. They themselves (at full strength) got destroyed by Ohio State. Since the end of the 2014 season, only Clemson's 2017 team was worse than their 2020 team (and that's when looking at the 2020 team in full strength, which they weren't in round 1).

The fact that it's almost certainly Kelly's best win in 11 seasons is a pretty big indictment on his ND tenure. Pat Narduzzi has been the definition of mediocre at Pitt and only been there for 6 years and even he has a bigger win (2016 Clemson) than Brian Kelly does in 11 seasons at ND.

He has no legendary wins on the level of 88 Miami or 93 Florida State. Overall, how many "great" wins does BK have at ND? 3? 4? Stanford 2012 and Oklahoma 2012 could maybe count, although neither team, despite being really good, were titans that year. Should 2013 MSU be in there? They ended up being a great team, but no one knew at the time and the game was a snoozefest, penalty-ridden affair with hardly any pregame hype or extra buzz. But around 3 or 4 great wins for ND's head coach in more than a decade is pretty sad.

Anyway, I originally brought it up to talk about the feeling, not the result itself. There was a lot of joy throughout the fanbase in beating the #1 team of course, but it felt like it didn't mean much for the prognostication of how we'd do in the playoffs and I got that sense too from a lot of my friends (many of whom like Kelly). It just feels like there's no "hope" under him the way there was in 2012.