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Is this post coming from inside the Gug? by StetsonDan

As I've learned, I'll leave any discussions of Lou to those on the board who remember those days.

I just want to correct your errors re: Weis. I dislike Weis more and more in retrospect because of his inability to develop talent and inability to recruit talent that fit his scheme, but you can't claim he didn't have defensive weapons or claim he only brought in 2 or 3 star talent. In fact, based on a quick glance of their last 4 full recruiting cycles, Weis ('06-'09) brought in more blue chip defensive prospects than Kelly ('18-'21) has.

Here are Weis's 22 blue-chip defensive prospects by 247 Consensus ranking:

2006 (3 blue chip defensive prospects):
CB Darrin Walls
CB Raeshon McNeil
LB Toryan Smith
2007 (5):
CB Gary Gray
LB Kerry Neal
DT Ian Williams
LB Steve Paskorz
LB Brian Smith
2008 (10):
DE Ethan Johnson
LB Darius Fleming
LB Steve Filer
S Jamoris Slaughter
S Dan McCarthy
DT Sean Cwynar
LB Anthony McDonald
CB Robert Blanton
DT Brandon Newman
DE Kapron Lewis-Moore
2009 (4):
LB Manti Teo
DT Tyler Stockton
LB Zeke Motta
S EJ Banks

By comparison, over the last 4 years, here are Kelly's 21 blue-chip defensive recruits:
2018 (7 blue chip defensive prospects):
CB Houston Griffith
LB Shayne Simon
LB Jack Lamb
S Derrik Allen
DT Jayson Ademilola
LB Bo Bauer
CB Noah Boykin
2019 (9):
S Kyle Hamilton
DT Jacob Lacey
CB Isaiah Rutherford
DE Isaiah Foskey
CB KJ Wallace
DE NaNa Osafo-Mensah
DT Hunter Spears
DE Howard Cross
LB JD Bertrand
2020 (2):
DE Jordan Botelho
DE Rylie Mills
2021 (3):
DT Gabriel Rubio
CB Philip Riley
LB Prince Kollie