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I don’t think ahab the arab is defending Kelly nor arguing by Father Nieuwland

for lowered expectations.

ND has had teams which were good enough to win non-playoff major bowls against non-playoff teams which qualified for those non-playoff major bowls.

Playing and winning those non-playoff major bowls rather than losing the playoff major bowls would have made this thread moot.

But it wouldn’t mean Kelly was a better coach than he is. And it wouldn’t mean ND is any closer to dominating college football than it is today. And that is what we all want.