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The names you mention may be "better coaches" than by BAC69

Kelly and I also don't think they would win a NC at ND.

But I do not buy, and have never bought, the idea that somehow ND would be left out of the playoffs if they had a team record that put them in contention just because they weren't in a conference.

Having said that, I don't think any of those coaches, given the ND situation they would have to coach under, would get us close enough to a playoff berth to really have any argument about not getting in.