The worry is what the feedback says
by Doggie (2024-04-12 12:36:12)

In reply to: Per Tom Noie: Burton to enter NBA Draft but leave open  posted by irishhawk49

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I don't know the timing of entering the portal is for him but the NBA feedback may tell me he needs to be good/better at "x" or "y," and that may drive him to play at a place that lets him do that better than at ND.

Or try to do that here instead of playing w/in the gameplan
by SavageDragon  (2024-04-12 14:23:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think we can all recall LFH's trying to prove he had shooting range.

(Okay, maybe not all of us ... apparently I'm at that age when guys who left ND 15 years ago still feel "recent".)
Critically, his shooting percentage dropped himself out of
by tdiddy07  (2024-04-17 11:00:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

NBA desirability as his shot volume went up. He went from shooting .368 on 1.1 attempt per game as a junior to .309 on 2.7 attempts per game as a senior. So it had the opposite effect. Yes, work on the things that the scouts want you to work on. So he should've worked on his outside shot. But the challenge is not to force bad shots. An NBA team would've rather have had the guy who shot .368 on few attempts than the guy who showed that he couldn't be an effective outside shooter if asked to do it more regularly.

Likewise, the NBA wasn't going to value Thomas more highly simply because he shot more from the outside. As a sophomore he shot .385 on 6 attempts per game. And his 2-point average was .416 on 8.8 attempts per game. The next year he chucked two more threes per year but dropped .034 points in average and took .5 less twos. And his assists dropped from 6.7 to 4.7 (though his TOs did drop from 4.2 to 2.4). If he wanted to improve his NBA game, he should've worked on getting better at scoring in the paint and continuing to work on his three-point accuracy. But simply shooting higher volume wasn't going to improve his numbers. Of course, part of this is also loss of supporting cast. However, in Thomas's junior year, Quinn was averaging 14 ppg with a better shooting percentage than Thomas on volume and efficiency not far of Carroll's.

Chris Thomas did the exact same thing *
by fourputtmd  (2024-04-12 14:38:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Yes, that is the concern with Burton.
by 84david  (2024-04-16 08:28:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Hopefully, he won't be jacking up Steph Curry logo threes to impress the scouts, and runs the offense.
It’ll be interesting.
by usaf_irish  (2024-04-12 12:45:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The NBA drafts on potential and not production. What is his potential in the NBA? Maybe a solid second team guard in 2-3 years? If he were to land with a good team that can stash him on their bench for 2-3 seasons, that would be ideal.

If he does to a bad team that expects him to contribute right away. Well. Let’s not talk about that.