I was going to share this on a slow news day
by Kayo (2024-04-02 11:32:13)

In reply to: Does ND’s academic rigor make us more susceptible to portal  posted by Georgia Hog


But it seems appropriate for this thread.

Notre Dame invited media to see the newly opened practice facility almost five years ago. I recorded Mike Brey's stand-up interview in the lobby with the gaggle of local media people. The entire interview is a good example of why it was fun to cover Brey and the program.

The link below will start the recording at the discussion of transfers. Much has changed since then, but in some ways not much has changed at all in terms of players' mindsets. Note how Brey discusses the players knowing that they are signing up for the academic challenge as well as the basketball challenge.

I don't doubt that Micah Shrewsberry makes a similar pitch. The academic rigor is part of the package, and it isn't for everyone. Nevertheless, it should not be a surprise to anyone who is at Notre Dame. In that respect, I don't know that academics makes the program more susceptible to transfers.




Totally agree it should not surprise anyone. Part of the
by wpkirish  (2024-04-02 12:08:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

pride of being ND is that we are different from everyone else and the academics are big component. That being said in an environment where transfers are at will I think anytime a player who improves their game and their "stock" they are a target. If they dont love the academics or maybe it is more difficut than they anticipated, I can see if being a factor.

The other factor is these are 18-22 year old kids. They make mistakes or sometines what they want in life changes. College athletes have long been one of the few categories of kids who could not freely change their mind. To put into context ND has a 97% retention rate after freshman year which is outstanding but that still means there are 60-70 kids who dont come back for sophomore year so it should not be surprising to see players with more opportunities to move do so.


This is where I think the risk is for ND Men’s basketball -
by Georgia Hog  (2024-04-02 16:30:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

“If they don't love the academics or maybe it is more difficult than they anticipated, I can see it being a factor.”

Again I ask, would LaPhonso Ellis, Jerian Grant, or Kyle McAllarney have remained at ND if the current rules/environment were in place when they encountered adversity, whether academic or otherwise? What about Laimbeer or Monty Williams. I’m not so sure.


Grant & McAlarney are recent enough...
by El Kabong  (2024-04-02 16:44:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...that the current environment is the same (or maybe even more lenient) than it was when they were at ND.


Except they both would have had to sit out a season and
by Georgia Hog  (2024-04-02 20:52:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

would not have gotten paid to transfer when they were suspended. Now, they could have played immediately and most certainly would have received some lucrative offers to transfer. They both faced barriers to transferring then that they would not face today, and the incentives/enticements to transferring today are far greater.