He was 8-5 against Spurrier and was 6-2 all-time against Tom Osbourne, and 21-9-1 in bowls at Florida State. I realize he probably should have won more than two national titles given the amount of talent he had, but it was an impressive resume.
18-13 if you don't count K's first 3 seasons, all of which were below .500. And neither stat includes UNC's game during 1995, when K was on medical leave and Duke decided not to count those games against his record.
He and Tom Izzo are in similar territory. Roy Williams would have been in the neighborhood if he hadn't won last night.
during UCLA's streak of 7 straight NCAA titles (1967, 1968, 1969, 1972). It's pretty hard to count those against Smith.
Of Smith's other 7 Final Fours, he won 2, which is as close as possible to what the odds would yield if all Final Four teams had equal talent and coaching ability.
same team for 3 years and won only 1 championship and that was the year he also had James Worthy.
Q. How do you hold Michael Jordan under 20 points?
A. Make sure Dean Smith is coaching him.
I don't think Dean Smith, to put it charitably, realized what a special talent he had in Michael Jordan. To be completely fair, however, he wasn't the only one.
Who's the last guy to hold MJ under 20 points?
If you say "coach", you give away the joke.
coach. But I could see that.
limiting Jordan in tat game than Dakich did. Smith kept Jordan on the bench for long stretches with 2 and 3 fouls. Smith should have played him and protected him on defense.
(his average FGA's was 14.5) and he eventually fouled out in a 4 point loss, which FWIW was the half time deficit.
Jordan's season average that year was under 20 ppg -- 19.6 to be exact. Not a huge difference, of course, but still . . .
(Perkins, Daugherty, Smith) and was in the pre-shot clock and pre 3 point era, so a 20 ppg is nothing to sneeze about.
Dean Smith really did not hold him down, it was the era and the talent around him that kept his average around 20.
By point of comparison, Danny Manning averaged 25 ppg in his last season at Kansas AND PLAYED WITH ZERO NBA TALENT.
He averaged 14.5 shot attempts per game and versus IU he took 14 in 26 minutes and ended up with 13 points.
My gosh, Westbrook averaged 12.7 ppg as a soph at UCLA. He played on a team with 2 other first rounders and high second round pick. Nobody said later that Howland held him down.
Appropriate comparison to Jordan.
My point in mentioning your link was that it had a link to UNC's team, which showed that Jordan averaged slightly less than 20 ppg. So it wasn't entirely about Dan Dakich, although he did hold Jordan considerably below his scoring average.
As for Dean Smith, I agree that the joke isn't entirely fair to him, although it is what it is. Of course, in the pre-shot clock days, Smith was well known for employing the four corners offense with the lead, in an effort to bleed the game clock and prevent the opponent from mounting a comeback. That held every player's scoring average down.
is simply amazing as they rarely have top 5ish talent. That job isn't even a top-three job in its own conference. They aren't in that good of a local territory for premium HS talent. Whatever talent there is year-in-and-year-out has to be battled for with another in-state, high-major in their own conference with serious resources.
Few coaches in their right mind would pick MSU as a basketball job before Indiana, Maryland, OSU and Michigan. That's just in their conference. Nationally you can add probably at least another roughly 13-15 programs.
Historically, MSU has won about 60% of their games and 56% in conference. Obviously, just two Final Fours pre-Izzo which includes the Magic '79 title.
Heathcote won about 60% of his MSU games and 53% of his Big Ten games.
Izzo has won 72% of his games and 69% of his Big Ten games.
Did Dean Smith's 2 championships involve him benefitting from the two biggest brain cramps in NCAA Tournament history? Shouldn't UNC invite Freddie Brown and Chris Weber back when they honor those championship teams at the Dean Dome?
Bobby Bowden, we don't need to say anything about 1993. As for 1999, hard to argue they weren't the best team, although if he had any principles and sat Peter Warrick after the Dillard's incident who knows? VT might have been able to edge them.
successor." Which is a low bar for Bowden