Still arguing two points.
by NDMike2001 (2017-09-11 14:42:47)

In reply to: Um, no  posted by wcnitz

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I'm not arguing about the letter of law...or the red. I stated that. I'm arguing the point about whether Mane had no excuse to make the challenge. Every attacking player goes after that ball. Every one.

Below is a link to Benteke's bicycle against United. If Herrera (?) showed half the guts of Ederson, he'd have had a boot in the face too.

My point being that you can't say that Mane did anything other players wouldn't. The commentators in the video all stated as much. Mane didn't lose control of his body. The keeper made a brave challenge, and both players paid the price - in different ways.




Mane kicked above his chest
by wcnitz  (2017-09-11 14:57:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If you do that and there's even a chance another player is going to come in contact with it, you're risking being sent off.

I'm not arguing two different things. Mane should have never done what he did. This isn't a blind bicycle kick, this is him charging at a ball and lunging with his boot high. He CHOSE to do that. He was NOT under control. I don't know how you could ever think doing that is anything remotely close to that.

I'm sorry, but no. It's Mane's fault his eyes were up when Ederson came in. It isn't Ederson's fault. Challenge for the ball, sure. Put your boot at neck level? Not unless you're sure nobody's around. It's excessive, stupid, dangerous and has no place in the game.
David Luiz...
by NDMike2001  (2017-09-17 10:03:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Mane got a red and 3 games. Luiz got a yellow.
As long as you are consistent, I don't care.
by NDMike2001  (2017-09-11 15:09:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And yes, you are absolutely arguing two points. 1.) Whether it deserved a red. On that we don't disagree. 2.) That Mane had no excuse for doing what he did. We disagree.

If you think that Benteke had no excuse going for that ball then fine. The only difference is that Herrera backed out. Ederson charged in. Contrary to popular belief, soccer is a fairly violent and dangerous sport.