Should ND get a partial Heisman for helping SC winners?
by MobileIrish (2024-04-24 12:29:13)

In reply to: But now they have the most Heisman winners.  posted by Domer84


ND’s ole performance in 2002 certainly helped Carson Palmer.

If ND had closed the deal in 2005, maybe Vince Young would have claimed the trophy instead of Reggie Bush.

Caleb Williams may have clinched the trophy running around against ND in 2022.


Had ND closed the deal in 05, Quinn would've had a real shot
by gordonbombay  (2024-04-24 13:30:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

As it was he finished 4th.


He'd be a no-brainer over Leinart.
by tdiddy07  (2024-04-25 09:08:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He probably should've finished ahead of Leinart as it is, anyway. Throw in the game-winning score over Leinart, the anticipation of ND appearing in the Rose Bowl for the national championship, and his only loss coming in a 487-yard 5 TD effort, and he'd have a shot at the trophy. Voters love Heisman moments, and his TD run in the last minutes may have become the most watched clip of the year in November. (Also possible that Zibby's return TD would've been the most watched clip.) We never talk about Quinn's TD much anymore, but that was an inspirational effort to shrug off an All-American linebacker and future first rounder and stretch for the goalline. Though Bush's TD soar over Fresno State still would've been wowing people.

However, his two chief competitors still (1) also led his team to the title game with similar passing numbers and 1,000 yards rushing and (2) ranked third in the country with 8.7 yards per carry with ~2,200 yards and 19 all-purpose TDs. He'd have a shot though. Especially when voters viewed him as a real student-athlete. (Though it may have been a couple years before both Young and Bush to take PR hits.)


Rocket and Theismann should have Heismans. *
by Homeboy73  (2024-04-24 17:20:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Almost 20 years later and 2005 remains painful. *
by MobileIrish  (2024-04-24 15:25:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


i was pissed as hell when that fumble went out of bounds.
by kdh325  (2024-04-25 17:36:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Had it stayed in a lot of clock would've run off and we would've won


Same here. *
by irishhawk49  (2024-04-26 17:25:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post