Correct.
by Irisharab (2024-03-27 09:40:39)

In reply to: I seriously doubt that  posted by tf86


Frank Beamer was the head coach at Virginia Tech for 25 seasons. His record at VT was 238-121-2.


Just for point of reference
by tf86  (2024-03-27 13:00:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Here is a list of the all-time losingest coaches at a select list of schools. I believe the board would agree that all programs mentioned here are Tier 1 or at least pretty close to it:

Alabama: Bear Bryant 42 losses in 25 seasons.
Auburn: Ralph Jordan 83 losses in 25 seasons.
Florida: Doug Dickey 43 losses in 9 seasons.
Florida State: Bobby Bowden 97 losses in 34 seasons.
Georgia: Wally Butts 86 losses in 22 seasons.
LSU: Charley McClendon 59 losses in 18 seasons.
Miami: Andy Gustafson 65 losses in 16 seasons.
Michigan: Bo Schembechler 48 losses in 21 seasons.
Nebraska: Tom Osborne 49 losses in 25 seasons.
Ohio State: Woody Hayes 61 losses in 28 seasons.
Oklahoma: Bennie Owen 54 losses in 22 seasons.
Penn State: Joe Paterno 136 losses in 46 seasons.
Tennessee: Johnny Majors 82 losses in 16 seasons.
Texas: Mack Brown 48 losses in 16 seasons.
Texas A&M: Homer Norton 53 losses in 14 seasons.
USC: John McKay 40 losses in 19 seasons.

Kelly, fwiw had 40 losses in 12 seasons at ND.


Lou had 30 in 11 seasons.
by Moff  (2024-03-27 16:51:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

At least he can say two thirds were against ranked (and often highly ranked) teams. Here are the game time rankings of ranked teams we lost to:

1986: 3,2,3,8
1987: 2,13
1988: -
1989: 7
1990: 18,1
1991: 3,13,8
1992: 18
1993: 17
1994: 6,8,4
1995: 7,8
1996: 4

And unlike Kelly, he beat a lot of highly ranked teams:

1986: 17
1987: 9, 17, 10
1988: 9, 1, 2, 3
1989: 2, 17, 9, 7, 17, 1
1990: 4, 24, 2, 9, 18
1991: 12, 3
1992: 9, 22, 19, 4
1993: 3, 1, 7
1994: -
1995: 13, 15, 5
1996: 6, 16,


I didn't post that to assert that Kelly was a legendary
by tf86  (2024-03-28 12:33:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Coach. I only posted it to refute the OP's claim that Kelly had more losses at ND than almost any other coach at any other school had. Even without looking it up, that's counter-intuitive when you consider how long some of these coaches stayed at one school.

Of the list I provided, Majors in particular was shocking to me. It wasn't shocking to learn that he had more losses than any other coach in Tennessee's history, but I found the number and average losses per year (> 5) shocking.


That’s right, though he doesn’t compare particularly
by tdiddy07  (2024-03-29 00:17:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

favorably in losses per year. His numbers more closely resemble the guys I haven’t heard of or have barely heard of.


Didn't think you were. Your post just triggered my ever
by Moff  (2024-03-28 14:37:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Present impulse to show Kelly sucks. Apologies if it was a bit of a non sequitur to the point you were making.


It is a good and decent reflex. *
by Jfs86  (2024-03-29 07:03:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Majors didn't have Tony D at Tennessee. *
by SWPaDem  (2024-03-28 12:39:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


And unlike Kelly Lou won a national championship and should
by arasera  (2024-03-27 18:06:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

have won another one.