In reply to: Early Christmas?: "Kelly to LSU" rumors are scalding posted by irishdemon
Hell, it's obvious now that Stoops still has the itch, but even Campbell and Fickell would be decent choices. I trust Swarbrick would screw it up.
You better be prepared to potentially unplug it after 1, 2, or 3 years if there are warning signals it isn't going to work. Set a handful of things to measure or benchmark against and review it every 3-4 months.
It would be a high risk, high reward move but the damage could be limited.
Only thing worse than whiffing on a key hire is to not recognize the mistake early and correct it immediately.
(There is no way Jack Swarbrick would know how to do this or have the energy - or incentive - to do this.)
next at-bat.
I do...too many jobs and he's got a solid reputation for recruiting and his ND results have improved immensely through the year.
I actually won't be surprised if Tommy Rees is the next HC at a Duke or something like that.
But I would be surprised if he left after 1 year unless it’s for a a really big program. Him going to Virginia Tech, let’s say as an example, doesn’t make much sense to me at this point.
Unless JS knows something about a can’t miss hire out there that none of us do (Dabo woke up to the fight song, as an example) running to sign Matt Campbell , Aranda, or Matt Rhule or some other coach of the week who has not shown continued success, would be a waste.
But I just don’t see Kelly leaving
He was at the top of my preferred hypothetical list before he took the Panthers job. And he might want out (or be forced out...) of Carolina the way things are going.
Campbell/Aranda would be a bit disappointing, but I also wouldn't be shocked if they were to do big things here if they were hired.
Hopefully Jack has been planning for the possibiity of Kelly leaving since 2012.
Which is shorthand for saying that Swarbrick will not approach either but instead will choke, panic, fear rejection, and go ugly early. Aim low.
We are definitely going to get the metallic pea Wagon Queen Family Truckster if Swarbrick is involved.
Then he will call up Pete and the friendly media and tell them that the stiff he hired is the inspired choice. That nobody else was available or appropriate fND, andevwrybody should trust his sagacity. And the usual suspects will fall inine based on the data
1-4 this year without McCaffery.
I don’t see how that should get anyone excited.
You seem to be content with mediocrity
Rhule is probably BK 2.0 (stolen from ndzippy)
You continually seem to discount the situations he took over. It wasn't like he ended up at PSU or Michigan State and struggled to win or beat ranked teams.
He took over two bad programs in Temple and Baylor and within three years turned both into ranked programs.
What did you want him to do at Temple and Baylor?
only an OT loss to OU in the Big 12 championship kept them out. They lost to OU by 3 points earlier in the year. He parlayed that quick turnaround into an NFL head coaching job.
But if this is the coach picked to take over for Kelly, I don’t see it as clear upgrade, and I don’t see it as someone to get excited over. It’s a lateral pick, IMO.
This program does not need someone to come in and change everything and build up a broken team from the ground up. It is close to championship caliber next year (especially if some important players come back). It needs a guy who knows how to win at big programs right now, so he can continue the recruiting momentum and keep the current 22 and 23 recruits. Rhule will come in with his own staff most likely. He likes complete control.
A quote from Vannie before Kelly was chosen, Rhule is not much different :
Kelly has never coached at a top program either as an assistant or as a head coach. He has never been mentored by or coached with a top-level head coach. He has not recruited nationally or against top programs for elite recruits. In his entire career, Kelly has never coached on a staff that defeated one of the top twenty all-time Division 1 college programs in terms of either wins or winning percentage.
Successful Notre Dame coaches, such as Parseghian, Devine and Holtz had a record of major wins against major opponents before they ever coached at Notre Dame, including Woody Hayes, Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler, Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer and Bob Devaney; multiple wins against teams such as Oklahoma, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Penn State; years of testing against competition in the Big Ten, the Big Eight and the Southwest Conference. Each had been mentored by some of the elite football minds of the age such as Paul Brown, Biggie Munn, Duffy Daugherty and Woody Hayes. Each had been around big-time coaches and programs. That level of familiarity with and success against big-time competition and big-time programs is essential at this point. Brian Kelly can point to no such major wins against top teams or coaches, no experience at a top program to know what it is like and no familiarity or mentorship under a top coach.
The market also tells you they think he's better than Kelly at this point in their careers.
who personally I detest because of his destruction of the Texans...
But at one time in the past he was a popular choice for ND fans due to his offense.
of the end zone. (From when I watched the Texans when Fuller was there.)
when somebody asked a tough question, he didn't like, and he embarrassed a female reporter at one of his press conferences sort of like when Ron Franklin talked down to Holly Rowe during the 2005 ND/Purdue game.
He likely wouldn’t accept job prior to CFP ending, which is a long time to have a vacancy.
Have him coach the bowl. Recruiting likely wouldn't suffer much if at all with him as interim, even with the early signing day. If you're able to land Fickell (or someone else worthy) at the end of the CFB/NFL season, great. If not, then I guess Freeman's your guy. There are worse things in the world.
I would not make a bad hire in early December just to have a permanent head coach, and I would not promote Freeman to full-time HC until mid-January at earliest, if we completely strike out.
A capable AD would have a plan already in place