Pete Thamel reports Lincoln Riley to USC. (link)
by revressbo (2021-11-28 15:40:57)

Carroll level hire.
by GoldCoastIrish  (2021-11-28 18:43:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

They're going to get better fast.


Interested to watch if it’s Carroll or Kelly.
by gregmorrissey  (2021-11-28 20:19:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Riley is only 38 so this could be a huge win for USC. But, Riley’s results for the last 5 years have been pretty equal to Kelly’s. Could be years of “epic” battles between two good but not great coaches who perennially post 10 win seasons of little consequence.


The only reason Kelly is still here is because USC sucked
by NDEE01  (2021-11-28 17:37:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That might be changing now.


You give Savvy Jack way too much credit. *
by 01momanor  (2021-11-28 17:48:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yep - Kelly’s nice little 11-year run of facing…
by irishdemon  (2021-11-28 17:44:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

… interim head coaches and morons at USC is now officially over.

Let’s see how he does.


I was told that head coaches don't lateral from major
by VaDblDmr  (2021-11-28 17:22:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

programs.


I assume Rees will be a prime candidate at OU *
by Groundhog  (2021-11-28 16:45:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yes, for an analyst position. *
by Private Joker  (2021-11-28 20:37:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


You're joking, right? Tell me you're joking. *
by eddysorin  (2021-11-28 17:25:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Freeman will be on that list
by irishrock  (2021-11-28 16:48:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Castiglione hasn't had an issue hiring an assistant...did it with Stoops and with Riley


They were rebuilding when he hired Stoops
by Nathan  (2021-11-28 17:52:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And it was over 20 years ago. Riley was coach in waiting. It was already in place for there to be a seamless transition. I suppose Joe C could promote Grinch or some other current assistant (unlikely) but he’s not hiring an outsider first time coach. His basketball coaches have all been experienced, and he’s pretty good at getting his guy. Money won’t be an issue. With a move to the sec coming, it will not be freeman.


One Riley is better than two Kellys
by Regis  (2021-11-28 16:40:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Brian and Chip can say good-bye to their "dominance" of USC.


That's scary. Almost as scary as these two fellows:
by SWPaDem  (2021-11-28 18:34:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post



Like Liberace, Joe had a brother George too.


I do not like that *
by WilfordBrimley  (2021-11-28 16:39:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


2x the talent, 1/2 the competition of the SEC
by SEE  (2021-11-28 16:31:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Good move

Oklahoma has no natural talent base outside of Texas


“Act like a have”.
by SavageDragon  (2021-11-28 16:31:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But, of course, we can’t do that, ever.

The institution’ leadership is perpetually too weak-willed, and even when it tries things at the margins the alumni with the highest expectations (namely, here) who talk a big game about not being “lace curtains” immediately whine about arms races and priorities and institutional character.


So when he said post game that he was not going to LSU
by TWO  (2021-11-28 16:28:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

he wasn't lying, they just didn't ask him about the USC job!


I’m surprised LSU is last to name a coach. I think that is a
by irpa  (2021-11-28 16:27:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

great job. They have lots of in state and surrounding state talent. Alabama will fall back once Saban retires. Alabama has to rely on getting kids from out of state.


It’s Gruden *
by NDMainiac  (2021-11-28 19:59:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Aren't there still legal issues swirling around LSU?
by G.K.Chesterton  (2021-11-28 17:18:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That might be scaring some candidates off. Of course, some candidates themselves might be off-limits because they themselves have had issues in the past, like Lincoln Riley and Jumbo Fisher.


Has it been confirmed that Aranda has signed an extension
by Jaxdulac  (2021-11-28 16:49:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

at Baylor. I've heard Baylor is offering, but has Aranda signed? He was at LSU prior to taking the Baylor job. And Baylor is still playing. Notice less than 24 hours after OU's season came to a close, Riley to SC is going public.


I should add that Kelly would do well there and he can bring
by irpa  (2021-11-28 16:32:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

back the purple face to match the purple uniform.


But who can we get!?!? *
by airborneirish  (2021-11-28 16:20:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


CJ Williams likes the hire if his Twitter is any indicator *
by NDTommie  (2021-11-28 16:20:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


looks like Raleek Brown, 5* RB, is coming with Riley to USC. *
by MrE  (2021-11-28 16:25:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Maybe Riley had a master plan all along?
by irishdemon  (2021-11-28 16:43:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Oklahoma currently has commitments from 5-star 2022 running back Raleek Brown, plus 5-star 2023 commits QB Malachi Nelson and WR Makai Lemon. Plus 4-star 2023 WR DeAndre Moore. All from Southern California.


that 2023 OU class, offensively, is mind-blowing.
by MrE  (2021-11-28 16:56:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

#2 overall, QB
#9 overall, WR
#22 overall, WR
#41 overall, WR
#47 overall, TE
#96 overall, RB


Could be some really fun USC O vs ND D matchups...
by revressbo  (2021-11-28 17:00:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

in 2023-2025.


He’s giddy - and likely gone. Oh well. *
by irishdemon  (2021-11-28 16:24:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Proving again it’s possible to hire superstar coaches
by Freight Train  (2021-11-28 16:12:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

provided the hiring party has the will to do so.

ND doesn’t have that will. We’ll be lucky if we don’t hire Rees.


& the nonsense about too many other jobs open in a given yr *
by MrE  (2021-11-28 16:22:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


USC hasn’t had that will either
by DBCooper  (2021-11-28 16:13:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Up until now of course


Don't forget Riley was an internal promotion at OU too
by ravenium  (2021-11-28 16:16:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Not suggesting we turn around and promote Rees, but I'm sure at the time there was some hue and cry when stoops left.

For every Lincoln Riley there is a Bob Davie.


Or Jimmy Lake *
by Nd06seattle09  (2021-11-28 16:36:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Smart move.
by TavianCainBass  (2021-11-28 16:10:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

This is a smart move for Riley and, obviously, for USC. It is a lot easier to win the Pac-12 at USC (or should be) than to win the SEC for any school not coached by Nick Saban.

I wonder if OU will see this as the first indication that moving to the SEC might not be the bargain they thought it would be. A Faustian bargain, perhaps? Yes, OU will make more money in the SEC - but at what cost? In the Big 12, in a "normal" year, OU (and Texas if it ever gets its act together) should be frontrunners for the Big 12 title. In the SEC, they might one of the 5 or 6 favorites.

I can already hear OU alumni screaming about this. Will the money matter to OU if they aren't always winning their conference?


He enjoys college bands that know 1-2 songs *
by JayInTx  (2021-11-28 16:09:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


BK knows how to win in Oklahoma. Just saying. *
by Zaggradirishfan  (2021-11-28 16:04:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Kelly won't be able to hang his hat on beating them now *
by Groundhog  (2021-11-28 16:04:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


His teams are soft and play no D. Fits right in the PAC12 *
by JBrock18  (2021-11-28 16:29:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


We're about to see what BK can do against a Carroll-level...
by revressbo  (2021-11-28 16:11:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Trojans program. If he's the top-5-in-America, statue-deserving coach like many in this fanbase act like he is, shouldn't be a problem for him to go at least .500 against Riley, if not better.


It’s now going to be a struggle to beat USC *
by Ty Webb  (2021-11-28 17:40:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He’s not “Carroll level”
by IrishLep  (2021-11-28 17:30:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Carroll had SC as the program that everyone wanted to be: tough, fast, and punishing along the fronts while recruiting at an (illegal) elite level. And the most important factor, a dominating defense. Riley is a good coach, he’s not Pete Carroll


Carroll level? *
by athlete37  (2021-11-28 16:27:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Close to it.
by revressbo  (2021-11-28 16:29:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He probably won't quite reach that level, you're right. But it also wouldn't shock me if he did.


We know what he does against the top teams *
by DBCooper  (2021-11-28 16:14:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Riley will dazzle in lala land. Great hire for southern cal.
by arch_moore  (2021-11-28 16:04:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Someone of staff better call CJ Williams.

Buckle up.


he's going to have to turn around this recruiting class ASAP
by MrE  (2021-11-28 16:05:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and the 2020 class is hot garbage for USC. They can always tap the sloppy-seconds in the transfer portal to augment their roster, but having 2 terrible classes in 3 years will create challenges in 2023-2025.


I suspect he will succeed, but he's going to face challenges
by Tex Francisco  (2021-11-28 16:10:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

at USC that he never did at OU. Bob Stoops left Riley an extremely healthy OU program. He's going to have to completely rebuild USC, including rebuilding the culture, which can be hard in LA. This year's OU team didn't seem to have a great culture to it.


The new transfer portal mitigates this issue
by mocopdx  (2021-11-28 16:07:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It’s far easier now to patch up a flawed roster, especially when you can instantly recruit top 3 classes as Riley will be able to.


Good move for Riley before heading to the SEC and becoming
by DomerJon  (2021-11-28 16:02:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

a perennial 8-4 team.


The next Maryland. Whoops. *
by rfk  (2021-11-28 16:50:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Maryland is 2-0 vs. UTA this past decade. *
by GoldCoastIrish  (2021-11-28 18:49:13)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He emphatically said last night he wasn’t going to LSU.
by MobileIrish  (2021-11-28 15:59:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Maybe that is why.


Well, he wasn’t lying about that part. *
by FtWorthIrish  (2021-11-28 16:00:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yeah. Just saw your post on Cartier. *
by MobileIrish  (2021-11-28 16:07:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Must have offered him a boat load of money
by ravenium  (2021-11-28 15:55:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Otherwise it's kind of a lateral move in a lot of ways. (for him)


No way. USC is a top 3 job
by rvaughn  (2021-11-28 17:14:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Everything they got busted for during the Carroll years is now legal under NIL. Warm weather, pretty girls, ton of talent in their backyard, weak PAC12 schedule, huge media market...


Tons more talent, far easier league than the SEC *
by SEE  (2021-11-28 16:38:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Can't argue the sec angle, though
by ravenium  (2021-11-28 19:51:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

At this rate the sec will have 30 teams by the end of the decade. Easy to have cannon fodder to help the perrenial competitors.


OU is also moving to the SEC soon.
by revressbo  (2021-11-28 15:58:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He might've liked his chances better against the Pac 12 and ND than against the SEC West.

ETA: There's a rumor he was also offered a similar contract by LSU and turned it down for USC. The reason there would probably be similarly applicable.


One is in LA, the other La. *
by airborneirish  (2021-11-28 16:23:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


and Billy Napier to Florida
by MrE  (2021-11-28 15:55:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's pretty clear these deals are done months or weeks in advance, and probably have to be given the fact signing day is now in mid-December.

I'm going to assume LSU's coach will be named in the next day or two.

Riley's hire is the first lateral big-school move since...?


LSU might be scrambling *
by DBCooper  (2021-11-28 16:11:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Probably since Jimbo left FSU for A&M *
by BillShakespeare  (2021-11-28 15:58:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


ah, yes, duh. Forgot about that one. *
by MrE  (2021-11-28 16:00:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Wow, that sucks *
by DBCooper  (2021-11-28 15:54:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Wow. Looks like a great hire for them. *
by garbageplate  (2021-11-28 15:51:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


If true, expect to lose
by ND74KJS  (2021-11-28 15:47:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

a recruit or two.


Didnt Sawchuck pick OU? *
by JAXDULAC  (2021-11-28 15:55:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Welp, it was nice beating them while we still could.
by mocopdx  (2021-11-28 15:45:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Riley’s offense with Southern California talent. Yikes.

Have to think CJ Williams may not be ours anymore either.

In all honesty, this is a good thing. We should want USC to be a perennial top ten team.


I actually agree with your last sentence.
by revressbo  (2021-11-28 16:15:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There hasn't been a really exciting ND-USC matchup in 16 years. Feels like (despite mostly OSU domination until yesterday...) OSU-Michigan is a great, important matchup every year. I'd love for ND-USC to reach that level.

Beating a great USC team can be used for recruiting, CFP resume and preparation, etc.


The last game of the year should ALWAYS be ND-USC.
by BIG MAC  (2021-11-28 16:10:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Tell them climate change is allowing them to play in South Bend in Nov. Stop being wusses. Also stop ending with Stanford. Move them to Sept. or Oct. In fact, I would replace them on the schedule with MSU, Iowa, Minnesota or an SEC team, or even a different PAC12 team.


Why would we want to play USC without our students present? *
by dcmike  (2021-11-28 18:49:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


ND likely has little interest in hosting a Thanksgiving
by cujays96  (2021-11-28 17:26:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

weekend game.


My guess is that USC would rather cancel the series
by Piertravlr  (2021-11-28 16:53:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

then head out to South Bend in November every second year.


Homerun hire for them *
by Combodraw  (2021-11-28 15:45:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post