Holtz at So Carolina was the pinnacle of post ND success *
by ndtuba (2021-11-14 18:43:21)
Edited on 2021-11-14 18:45:05

In reply to: Every failed ND HC has ended badly at next job...  posted by Scoop80


But he wasn’t a failure so your point stands.


Lou had 2/6 good seasons in SC
by SEE  (2021-11-14 19:00:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Maybe 3

1999 South Carolina 0–11 0–8 6th (Eastern)
2000 South Carolina 8–4 5–3 2nd (Eastern) W Outback 21 19
2001 South Carolina 9–3 5–3 3rd (Eastern) W Outback 13 13
2002 South Carolina 5–7 3–5 4th (Eastern)
2003 South Carolina 5–7 2–6 4th (Eastern)
2004 South Carolina 6–5 4–4
South Carolina: 33–37

All-time record 620–599–44 [1] (.508)


He's the only NC-winning ND HC to take another job...
by Scoop80  (2021-11-14 19:25:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Leahy, Parseghian, and Devine never coached elsewhere. Neither did Layden, who didn't win a NC, but who had a .770 W/L %. Rockne, obviously, never had the chance to coach elsewhere.

Except for Holtz, the general rule of thumb has been that ND was a destination job for successful HC's. Except for Brennan, the general rule of thumb has been that unsuccessful ND HC's took another shot and were even more unsuccessful than they were at ND.

EDIT: I looked up Anderson, who, previously unbeknownst to me, coached at NC State for 3 years, where he went 11-17-1--including 3-7 in his last year there.


How were they before he got there? *
by NDMike2001  (2021-11-14 19:14:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


One win the year before he got there versus Ball State. *
by Moff  (2021-11-15 12:36:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That 0-11 in his first year wasn’t a mistake.
by cujays96  (2021-11-15 05:02:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Holtz got them to a place where they weren’t viewed as an SEC doormat. There was enough there when he was done that he talked Spurrier into taking the job.


well, that and an Augusta National membership
by irishrock  (2021-11-15 08:02:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

rumor is that is the reason Holtz and Spurrier took the job