The Jeff Quinn era can't end soon enough
by Groundhog (2021-11-14 00:16:50)

Just about every good run an ND RB has starts with them dodging two defenders in the backfield.

I have no expectation that a change will actually be made.


“Ever hear the story about the USS Indianapolis?… *
by Frank Drebin  (2021-11-14 09:46:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


"You were on the USS Indianapolis?" *
by johnnysalami  (2021-11-14 15:04:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


"No, but we're gonna need bigger boats and a Captain that
by Hati Hijau  (2021-11-14 16:00:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

realizes we are out on an ocean, not a pond or lake, and there are sharks bigger than his little dinghy."

(I dub him Captain Jelly, the Purple-faced Meathead.)

Edit original phrase and addition of the "dub step."


"A shark like Kelly, he's got black eyes, dead eyes
by johnnysalami  (2021-11-14 16:24:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And when he bites into his quarterback, those eyes roll over white."


That does describe him. He is a soulless and merciless
by Hati Hijau  (2021-11-14 17:03:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

killer of quarterbacks.


The offense and Oline sucked before Quinn
by Colonel Mustard  (2021-11-14 08:45:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I know Quinn is a popular scapegoat, but every offensive line under Kelly blew and had the same problem with run blocking. This is a Kelly problem, not an [Oline coach] problem.

Prior to his arrival, people here said Quinn was the secret to Kelly's offensive success -- and Kelly's shift to a run heavier, more tolerable offense roughly coincided with his arrival. Don't forget the hot garbage that was our offense from 2011 - 2014.


Total offense (points) ranking:

2011- 41
2012- 71
2013- 70
2014- 32

2015- 29
2016- 47
2017- 19
2018- 33
2019- 10
2020- 27

Ranking - yards/rush attempt:

2011- 79
2012- 21
2013- 53
2014- 61

2015- 6
2016- 58
2017- 2
2018- 52
2019- 25
2020- 28

Total offense (yards) ranking:

2011- 35
2012- 44
2013- 63
2014- 31

2015- 26
2016- 62
2017- 26
2018- 28
2019- 36
2020- 23


The outlier rushing years happened right before his tenure.
by tdiddy07  (2021-11-14 10:34:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It could be because Nelson is simply an outlier. Or it could reflect his development of 3 1st round picks on the 15 and 17 squads.

I agree he shouldn’t be a scapegoat. But there is reason to support bringing Harry back regardless of the head coach.


There are stats on RB hit at or behing LOS, QB hits, etc
by btd  (2021-11-14 10:31:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

All of those have had a dramatic decline this year -- oddly the first year where he doesn't have starters that were trained for multiple years under HH.

The OL play isn't just the standard our run offense is nowhere near where it should be. We still cannot handle the most basic stunts -- they showed multiple on replays in the UVA game where Coan fortunately managed to make a guy miss that went totally free off a looping stunt the OL should handle with ease.

Williams is getting hit at or behind the LOS at about 2x the rate of last season. Fortunately, he runs through the first guy much of the time or stops on a dime and changes direction and gets something.

There is no comparison at all to Quinn and HH on any stat of any kind for OL. It is bad. Extremely bad. Worse yet -- the players that do the best are the ones coached by him the least.


He deserves to be a scapegoat
by Ty Webb  (2021-11-14 10:17:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He’s not good.


Just ok?
by BIG MAC  (2021-11-14 10:22:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Is not ok.


Fix the things you can fix. Quinn’s employment is one. *
by cujays96  (2021-11-14 09:43:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


True, Quinn is just a symptom. *
by MrE  (2021-11-14 09:00:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


But the kids just love Quinn *
by Brahms  (2021-11-14 07:46:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


You’re wrong; not just about - it’s every *
by lookatmeimirish  (2021-11-14 06:25:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post