...than to have lost to Cincinnati.

Unless it's the ACC champ.

It's probably going to be the ACC champ. If Cincinnati ends up being blackballed from the CFP again, they'll be going to the Fiesta Bowl because they were in the Peach last year, and they're not going to arrange a rematch.

It would only be natural for the ACC champ to go to the Peach (the Orange being a semifinal this year), so there you go.

If ND matches up against UGA, Alabama, or OSU, then I'll agree with you. Anyone other than those three, I think ND would hold its own just fine.

True, only if we continue to improve.

I guess I'm just not impressed with any other teams outside UGA, Alabama, and OSU this year. My comment is really not so much praise for ND as it is an indictment against the rest of the college football field.

Could ND lose a NY6 game against Okie State? Sure. Will ND get "housed" -- I really doubt that.

But they'll get the 4 spot barring something flukey, like a bedlam loss.

UM will have another loss, we won't be rematched with Cincy, maybe we'd get Bama if they lose to UGa?

They'll wind up in the Sugar Bowl if they win their CCG. The Sugar Bowl is contractually tied into SEC vs. Big XII, so we have no shot at that game. The only possible way we face OU in a bowl game is if they don't win the Big XII.

For my money, Oklahoma State is the most likely Big XII opponent in a bowl game. Even that is somewhat unlikely, though. Most likely, they would have to beat Oklahoma at Bedlam and then lose in the CCG. IF they beat Oklahoma twice, they'll win the conference and get the Sugar Bowl bid. If they lose twice, they'll probably fall far enough to be out of the running for a NY6 bid.

with that same QB like two weeks ago?