Edit: old roommate in Chicago has 4 for sale, no interest. I have 2 for sale. No interest.

The tickets are “sold”, so the revenue is there. But there will be lots of empty seats

Not building toward anything this year - arguably any year. I got back my plane ticket cost and rental car and of course avoid the basic costs of being there 2 days. I find it harder and harder to care about being on campus. It does very little for me anymore. The ND I went to barely exists anymore. As my roommate said, it is a 10 minute walk to the edge of what used to be the outside edge of campus.

The kind whose acceptance of mediocrity makes it all the more difficult for ND to win a title, or the kind who expects ND to live up to the standard it educated us all to believe was the truth?

Enjoying a decent (but not spectacular) run doesn’t make someone a bad fan. Boycotting going to games because you disagree with a head coach does, IMHO. But hey….to each his or her own.

When can we expect to start seeing the spectacular ones?

Or do you believe those aren't possible and you're willing to accept whatever you're given?

But I still think we could pull it off if the stars align right. I’ve forever said that I like Kelly, but don’t love him. I like that he has us as a solid top program again. I don’t know if he can take us to the top. But as long as he’s recruiting well and keeping us close, I’m not going to bitch and moan too much. Maybe he’s more of a Richt at Georgia type guy. But you know what? That dude kept Georgia close enough that the next guy could take it to the next level. So if the right guy comes along, I’m fine with moving on from Kelly. I really won’t she’s a tear whenever he or ND moves on. But I hope we don’t move on for the flavor of the month that many here have pined for (guys like Herman, Fleck, Campbell, and ones like that).

Anyway, even with the program in the “not quite elite” position it is now, I think it’s worthy of supporting and going to games when I can. I think that is what a good fan does (or at least what a fan who enjoys ND football does). And that loyalty will make it that much sweeter if we can ever get over the top (with whatever coach that may be).

The "my loyalty will make things so sweet" pablum is new, I'll have to add it to the card.

Brian Kelly demonstrably can’t and won’t take us to the top. In his case past performance does predict the future. Enjoy the ride though, while you help to enable those who have emasculated what once was a unique and special place.

attended so far? The good fans. When you are finished pulling your worthless head out of your ass, feel free to type a reply.

I’ll take back the bad fan comment (toward you….that should be more directed to the boneheaded boycotting group of people here!), so apologies there. Your attitude still stinks, but I applaud you for going to that many games. This will be three for me as well, but it’s probably easier for me to get to.

I didn't realize that you were a bad fan.

Not a ssingle change made, turd laid, or buy game played has had any role.

Just not for some of the geezers like you.