Kelly is the third best coach behind Saban & Swinney

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Technically true. - Bacchus 2021-03-26 17:21:38
"Jobs created OR SAVED". Disprove it. - Brahms 2021-03-26 10:27:55
If you put a gun to my head, I'd put - tf86 2021-03-24 19:05:30
- I think it is a testament to how successful Saban and - 1978Irish 2021-03-25 18:12:57
Shouldn't performance vs. expectations be considered? - ndzippy 2021-03-24 16:09:52
- I wouldn't use preseason rankings as a measurement. - NDBass 2021-03-24 16:28:28
- you're looking at the wrong numbers - jt 2021-03-24 16:18:19
  - You'd need to standardize that by Strenth of Sched - Brahms 2021-03-26 10:30:25
  - lot of straw man arguments here. Who are the imaginary - 84david 2021-03-24 17:30:58
    - Oh, they exist * - ACross 2021-03-24 21:29:05
Oh, we've seen what Saban did at Michigan State - jt 2021-03-24 13:42:23
- Serious question - how good is Mark Dantonio's resume - Pat85 2021-03-24 13:51:09
  - He was a very solid coach. Defintely top 20 and maybe - Raoul 2021-03-24 21:55:00
  - I agree with some caveats. - tdiddy07 2021-03-24 14:51:25
    - Kelly would have gone undefeated - jt 2021-03-24 15:54:14
      - The ND game is our opponents’ Super Bowl!!!1!!! * - Freight Train 2021-03-24 19:34:41
        and also note how many opponents schedule a bye prior - jt 2021-03-24 19:58:50
- Plus control freak and needs great players too - ACross 2021-03-24 13:49:48
  - did you hear that he sent the plane back to East Lansing - jt 2021-03-24 15:52:59
    - a buddy of mine was one of those assistant coaches - irishrock 2021-03-26 01:46:10
    - They'll even park his car for him. * - bleedsgreen04 2021-03-24 17:30:01
      - coach Smails * - jt 2021-03-24 19:59:09
      - POTD * - Scoop80 2021-03-24 17:42:02
ND's QB development is ranked #29 out of 65 Power 5 Teams - Hickster 2021-03-24 13:01:25
Must have been only 3 coaches in the poll * - Tbone 2021-03-24 12:55:04
- Only two . . . he came in "right behind the winners!" * - other_guy 2021-03-24 13:00:53
  - In the “Everybody Else is Tied for Last” group. * - BeastOfBourbon 2021-03-24 15:11:54
I think there are really just two metrics that define - potatohouse 2021-03-24 09:53:02
- I think it is much simpler - NDAtty 2021-03-25 13:27:13
  - I can get down with that. - potatohouse 2021-03-26 09:53:49
  - Agree. * - MrE 2021-03-25 16:38:30
- Really good analysis. I'd highlight you if I hadn't already. * - LaughingTulkas 2021-03-24 12:12:35
- you mean, "factors" or "considerations" - ACross 2021-03-24 10:39:14
  - Fair point. - potatohouse 2021-03-24 10:45:26
    - I edited for further context * - ACross 2021-03-24 10:58:12
      - I think there is a lot of daylight between - potatohouse 2021-03-24 14:13:52
        I disagree. I think he is decidely mediocre - ACross 2021-03-24 14:20:34
        have you stopped to consider institutional fit? * - jt 2021-03-24 16:22:45
        "Best coach WHO IS A FIT for Notre Dame" - Brahms 2021-03-26 12:18:08
- Counterpoint. - SorinBasement 2021-03-24 10:15:49
  - The powderpuffing of our scheduling has been deliberate - ACross 2021-03-24 11:04:49
    - There's definitely been some "powderpuffing"... - Irisharab 2021-03-24 18:28:35
  - No quibble with your point about his lack of such wins. - potatohouse 2021-03-24 10:40:11
    - I think it would be better to say "pre-playoff." - IrishJosh24 2021-03-24 11:31:40
      - Not much Clemson can do with respect to schedule - ACross 2021-03-24 12:43:34
      - This is what I mean about getting into a level of - potatohouse 2021-03-24 12:09:57
        Hmmm, maybe we've misread each other. - IrishJosh24 2021-03-24 12:31:17
        All good. - potatohouse 2021-03-24 14:04:58
- Well done. * - ribs 2021-03-24 10:04:08
Who are we to quarrel with Bruce Feldman? * - meatwhistle 2021-03-23 20:36:22
- He puts his pants on just like the rest of you - DBCooper 2021-03-23 21:24:39
  - His assistants put his pants on for him when they are - 512 2021-03-24 12:28:33
  - For the record - RJD 2021-03-24 10:55:46
They put him on the list so we won't fire him * - Luke 2021-03-23 19:47:13
28 names between the 2 lists; would probably take 10 over - gregmorrissey 2021-03-23 19:22:37
- It is not reasonable to exclude all NFL coaches * - ACross 2021-03-24 13:25:26
  - That's fair. My take was purely from the lists - gregmorrissey 2021-03-24 18:15:46
- There should be 0 debate about the 4 directly following him - DakotaDomer 2021-03-24 09:19:35
  - Twenty is pretty hard to argue - jtnd05 2021-03-24 10:42:54
    - In each of those three trips we received a cornholing * - ACross 2021-03-24 20:37:58
    - Institutional advantages compared to others - DakotaDomer 2021-03-24 12:27:43
    - Swarbrick's schedules have engineered our appearances * - Freight Train 2021-03-24 12:01:00
      - He thinks he's crafty - ACross 2021-03-24 13:08:33
  - Re: the other coaches, agree except with Smart. - dignan 2021-03-24 10:35:38
    - Smart has many more quality wins than Kelly * - Groundhog 2021-03-24 23:47:08
    - “Able to hang with” - DakotaDomer 2021-03-24 12:30:59
      - UGA had much more talent across the board than ND - dignan 2021-03-25 08:07:38
    - And yet he was a hair's breadth away from a title. - IrishJosh24 2021-03-24 12:10:55
      - I think the point is that it's debatable - pmcdnd96 2021-03-24 14:52:07
        But Smart's closeness doesn't require a hypothetical. - IrishJosh24 2021-03-26 16:44:15
        It is not debatable. F. * - ACross 2021-03-24 17:41:15
        He's not on the Swinney/Saban list - DakotaDomer 2021-03-24 17:28:43
        You may be right - pmcdnd96 2021-03-24 19:17:00
        I feel like a comparison to Pete Carroll - DakotaDomer 2021-03-24 22:22:30
        Same model, not same success - pmcdnd96 2021-03-25 09:44:49
        What a dunce * - ACross 2021-03-24 21:31:05
- Outside of Ogre - Groundhog 2021-03-23 23:02:37
- I'm lazy, but it would also be useful to see Heisman counts - G.K.Chesterton 2021-03-23 22:10:34
  - That would be true if coaches were dealt players - ACross 2021-03-24 13:20:19
- There’s probably only 4-5 I wouldn’t be happy swapping * - carroll2005 2021-03-23 21:41:24
Lucinda Jenney was the 3rd best actress in "Thelma & Louise" * - eddysorin 2021-03-23 19:16:07
- I like this comment * - volley 2021-03-23 22:02:24
Well then. I take it all back. - 2ndstreeter 2021-03-23 19:02:08
Kelly is Gene Keady * - Nyirish08 2021-03-23 18:12:01
I'll rank Kelly when he wins a national championship. - mkovac 2021-03-23 18:04:53
- You misspelled "if." * - TheRosadoBrothers 2021-03-23 21:00:09
I agree... - MR_IRISH 2021-03-23 17:26:17
In what sport? * - Frank Drebin 2021-03-23 16:28:42
- Dancing * - gme 2021-03-23 16:48:31
  - A+ * - 84david 2021-03-23 17:24:50
And #3 on Stewart Mandel's rankings as well. - mocopdx 2021-03-23 16:28:10
- Mandel doubled down today - miamioh_irishfan 2021-03-24 11:25:07
  - Wonder why it is that Kelly doesn't flee then? - IrishJosh24 2021-03-24 13:59:17
    - There's no rational comeback to your question. - revressbo 2021-03-24 15:03:00
- he mentions our regular season victory over Clemson - ACross 2021-03-23 17:44:59
  - It was Clemson's 5th-best team in the past 6 seasons. - revressbo 2021-03-23 18:38:55
    - They also made actual adjustments in round 2 - carroll2005 2021-03-23 20:17:39
- Swarbrick gets the gold medal for scheduling for success. * - CJC 2021-03-23 17:19:45
- Oooh, playoff appearances. - IrishJosh24 2021-03-23 17:08:29
  - Yo, IrishJosh - Irishdemon 2021-03-25 16:16:52
  - Yeah, to be clear - mocopdx 2021-03-23 17:26:39
    - I sort of figured you did. - IrishJosh24 2021-03-23 17:29:33