Swarbrick very positive on Fighting Irish nickname.
by G.K.Chesterton (2020-07-14 22:52:43)
Edited on 2020-07-14 22:53:18

From a wide-ranging interview this week on many subjects. I'm just picking the last question:

Q: What’s your take on people debating the Fighting Irish nickname and whether that’s something that should endure?

JS: “What we’re stressing in the current environment with our students is: We want to talk about everything. We want to talk about any issue or any concern, especially relating to social justice and the treatment of other people.

“So it would be inconsistent with that core message not to say we welcome people’s thoughts on this. We view it very positively. We don’t view it as having a negative connotation and certainly our experiences in Ireland have tended to reinforce that view.

“But I understand some people might have a different view and I welcome them expressing those views.”





Let’s go with “The Moops” and be done with it *
by Frank Drebin  (2020-07-16 08:27:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Fighting Faustians? (note multiple interpretations) *
by Rfk  (2020-07-15 21:57:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Their old name The Ramblers reminds me of AMC *
by thethinman  (2020-07-15 21:04:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Liam Neeson and I feel we can still keep the true idea of
by rgvirish  (2020-07-15 20:54:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"Fighting Irish" if you guys don't mind a little bilingualism in our mascot's new name.


There were likely Irish who fought for South in Civil War
by Father Nieuwland  (2020-07-15 19:26:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

so it would makes sense to drop this hurtful nickname with ties to the Confederacy.


So If Corby were blessing the Confederate troops,
by domer4  (2020-07-15 19:34:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

would his statue be gone by now?


"Redskins" is available. *
by jimclarke5  (2020-07-15 15:01:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That would be kind of applicable. *
by RocketShark  (2020-07-15 19:59:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


"The Independents" just to piss everyone off. *
by Giggity_Giggity  (2020-07-15 14:19:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


like *
by ksqdomer  (2020-07-16 10:10:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


NDSCM78 reports ND is considering the" Ramblers""
by Irishgruff  (2020-07-15 12:40:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Old name from years back.....I feel that will not fly.......


Nah, ground work already laid for "Fighting Crazy Trains". *
by cmhirish  (2020-07-15 17:43:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


At least we could have a cooler kickoff song.
by BeastOfBourbon  (2020-07-15 14:27:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Replace the Victory March w/ Allman Bros "Ramblin Man". *
by ArasEra  (2020-07-16 14:26:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


How years ago in days of old, when magic filled the air. *
by tdiddy07  (2020-07-15 15:53:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


whatever name is chosen, someone will be offended, sad. *
by discNDav  (2020-07-15 14:15:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


ND should go with “The Hoofers” as a salute to Four Horsemen
by Frank Drebin  (2020-07-15 12:56:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

As well as a salute to The Radio City Rockettes


“The Hooters” as a salute to SMC chicks *
by Father Nieuwland  (2020-07-15 19:27:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Halftime show
by ksqdomer  (2020-07-16 10:14:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The “Nags.” *
by usmcirish  (2020-07-15 13:55:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


As a salute to ND women *
by Father Nieuwland  (2020-07-15 21:36:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Guiness and Jameson also support our name. *
by Domerduck  (2020-07-15 11:53:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


"Pubs: Irish Sunscreen"....... *
by Nd66NC (click here to email the poster)  (2020-07-15 12:21:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Jack currently working on a way to market/monetize
by 84david  (2020-07-15 09:45:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the nickname debate.

The Notre Dame roundtable on changing the nickname, brought to you by
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Perhaps we should change it
by novadamer  (2020-07-15 09:32:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I say lean in: The University of Notre Dame Fookin' Papists!


Word salad. *
by 1NDGal  (2020-07-15 08:56:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Jack is prepping us for ND’s new nickname: “Fabulous French”
by Frank Drebin  (2020-07-15 08:42:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Well Notre Dame is a French name founded by a Frenchman. Makes sense. Our mascot could be a French Rooster and our cheerleaders could all be French mimes. French designers like Dior could compete to design our uniforms. Michelin rated 3 star French restaurants could provide French cuisine in the Stadium. Kelly could be arrayed like Liberace along the sidelines in a long white fur cape. Let’s go with it.


So "Fighting Frogs" a tad too racist?
by rgvirish  (2020-07-15 20:44:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I guess using "Pepe The Frog" is really out of the question.


Combine the FSU chop with an "Off With Their Heads" chant *
by Notra_Dahm  (2020-07-15 15:29:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


We already have the wine and cheese tailgating mastered. *
by IAND75  (2020-07-15 11:08:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I don’t want to talk about everything.
by mkovac  (2020-07-15 01:21:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I don’t want to know about this topic.

I don’t think Jack should either.

It’s our fucking nickname and it stays.

Fuck that shit.


Right on, brother...
by Kbyrnes  (2020-07-15 20:19:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...right on!


I feel this same way about the Tribe
by ndgotrobbedin97  (2020-07-15 16:48:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Frankly, I feel stronger about that than I do about ND.


end of discussion, wish everyone would see this. *
by discNDav  (2020-07-15 10:03:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


it does glorify the Irish sterotypes of getting drunk and
by jt  (2020-07-15 12:20:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

fighting.

While these stereotypes are largely true, no need to glorify them


Bullshit. I have never once connected Fighting Irish ....
by Wolfetone  (2020-07-15 16:12:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

With drunkenness.The term denotes a gritty,tough ethnicity that fought
its way up the social ladder. It celebrates the Irishmen who fought and died gallantly in the Revolutionary War. Some say 50% of the conscripts
were Irish only too happy to battle the English. It pays tribute to
The Fighting 69th that fought so bravely in our wars.The leprochaun
is stupid and should be unloaded.....


That's the soyrse of the nickname.. A perjorative
by ODSCHOOL  (2020-07-15 20:17:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

describing catholics and Irish. So, bullshit on your feigned lack of awareness of the history of the name.. If you do know the history, then


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by Moff  (2020-07-15 22:02:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


“They fight like a bunch of drunken Irishmen,” was the story
by 1NDGal  (2020-07-16 20:47:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I’ve been told since approximately forever.

Some journalist wrote that in the 1930s or something? And it definitely was meant as an insult. So we said, “damn straight skippy” and make it our mascot.

I like that story so I’m sticking with it.


and they were the mine field testers in WW1 as well *
by jt  (2020-07-15 17:16:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I think they were used as mud flaps in the early days
by ACross  (2020-07-16 01:14:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Of trucking


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by Moff  (2020-07-15 20:10:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


you know why the Italian Navy builds their boats with
by jt  (2020-07-15 22:15:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

glass bottoms, right?


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by Moff  (2020-07-16 07:15:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Well I suppose you had to do that.
by 1NDGal  (2020-07-16 20:41:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

To quote Teri Garr, “Thanks, Michael. Great party. My date left with someone else. Got any Seconal?”


And the Irish Brigade of the Civil War.
by Domer84  (2020-07-15 17:09:46)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Rev. William Corby, Chaplain.


''Blue for the Union and Green for Ireland" *
by Wolfetone  (2020-07-16 05:04:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Your suggestion that "getting drunk" and "fighting"
by JC_90_94  (2020-07-15 13:40:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

are somehow bad traits offends me.

Shouldn't reasonable-minded people be glorifying things that are indisputably good?


Doesn’t help when ND-affiliated sites push articles on the
by 1NDGal  (2020-07-15 10:16:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

topic in a naked effort to drive traffic.

Not ISD and obviously not here.


Always worried when Savvy touches anything.....
by Wolfetone  (2020-07-15 08:58:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I recall when he said there would be no NCAA probation for us....


finally, someone said it *
by irishrock  (2020-07-15 08:13:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Well said *
by RoccoGlobboSchoolForWomen  (2020-07-15 07:44:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Amen *
by ND76  (2020-07-15 06:26:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Thanks for saying that
by acrossdmiddle  (2020-07-15 05:55:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

More than ever the kids at ND didn’t give a shit about the school before they were accepted, so I really could give two fucks about what they think about this issue.


This is the 3rd board of this refresher (link)
by enginerd194  (2020-07-14 22:57:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Little did we know what awaited us that fall.... *
by graNDfan  (2020-07-15 07:47:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Man oh man, where have all those posters gone? *
by nd71  (2020-07-15 07:09:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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by Moff  (2020-07-15 11:46:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Lovely to see you again .... *
by nd71  (2020-07-15 15:54:57)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Lovely to see you again .... *
by nd71  (2020-07-15 14:54:26)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


terry fox....never seen nor heard from again *
by jt  (2020-07-15 00:20:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That’s the most replies to a post I’ve ever seen *
by HScorpio  (2020-07-14 23:44:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post