X marks the spot.
by The Holtz Room (2017-09-12 15:32:53)

I don't know, a grand to watch porn on the go seems a little steep to me. Rumor has it the face recognition can be worked around with a 2-D picture. As my brother said, "remember when the US spent all that money to develop as space pen to write upside down and the Russians just used a pencil? Yeah, that."

iPhone X specs highlights:

5.8-inch OLED display
2,436x1,135-pixel resolution (Apple calls this a Super Retina display)
458ppi pixel density
Animojis make emojis out of you
Dual 12-megapixel rear cameras with OIS on both cameras
Portrait mode with portrait lighting feature
Front-facing camera has portrait mode now, too
No home button
Face ID to unlock the phone (hold your phone up to your face)
A11 Bionic processor
Glass back and front
Supports wireless charging
64GB and 256GB options
Space grey and silver


For 10 years, crappy battery life
by thecontrarian (click here to email the poster)  (2017-09-13 08:23:18)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I swear, if Apple announced a phone that retained the same old features as the iPhone 8 but with double the battery life, I'd be camped in front of my local Apple Store.


F-4 Phantoms
by irishrock  (2017-09-12 21:55:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It was a great plane but did have some issues...one being visibility behind the cockpit. The US couldn't figure out what to do to help the Pilot and WSO (Weapon Systems Officer or Wizzo) spot the bad guys at the plane's 6. Israel flew the plane as well and had the same issue. So they ordered a ton of rear view mirrors from Western Auto and installed them in their planes. Problem solved.


Ok...that would have been a better example. *
by The Holtz Room  (2017-09-12 22:07:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Don't know about that
by Irishrock  (2017-09-12 22:41:20)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think it actually proves the US could be accused of having too much money to fix problems and/or just plain old overthinking through an issue (which I've been accused of...the overthinking part, not the having too much money part)


Side note -- I hate that anecdote. There was a good reason
by BigBadBrewer  (2017-09-12 17:25:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

for the pen and not the pencil at that time. The mechanical pencils the US used had tips that would break, leaving debris and graphite dust floating around the cabin which could potentially interfere with operation (get in eyes, graphite is flammable, etc). The US ended up allowing the pressurized pens to be sold to the Soviets IIRC as well.


Why did the pencil have to be mechanical? *
by TripleDomer  (2017-09-12 19:44:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Sharpening is space would seem to be an issue. *
by thersh  (2017-09-12 19:49:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Why? *
by Jeash  (2017-09-12 20:07:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Graphite powder, wood shavings? *
by 88_92wsnd  (2017-09-12 20:21:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


doesn't seem like a difficult thing to engineer around
by cujaysfan  (2017-09-12 23:47:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

or - just send up a whole box of pre sharpened pencils.


Back then shaving every oz off launch weight was big deal *
by 88_92wsnd  (2017-09-13 06:39:30)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Still break points and have floating flammable carbon dust
by gozer  (2017-09-13 01:19:36)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

in a pure oxygen environment


Yep. That stuff floating around would certainly not be
by thersh  (2017-09-12 20:35:53)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

healthy. To the spacecraft or the crew.


Looks like Ill be going 7 Plus
by Killian  (2017-09-12 17:24:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I am intrigued by the new v3 Nike watch though.


I have one and the "Portrait" feature on the camera is nice.
by mkovac  (2017-09-12 19:36:09)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's a bit frustrating, however, being told to back up. I'm used to my digital slr where I can program "aperture priority" and don't have to see a screen message telling me to back up.

But, it takes nice photos and give me two when I use the "Portrait" mode. One with the background in focus, and another with the background properly blurred to bring the subject(s) into better definition.


No TouchID, no buy from me
by NDEE01  (2017-09-12 16:35:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Touch ID works too well and quickly for me to give that up. I unlock my phone plenty of times when not looking at it or when wearing sunglasses outside. The "feature" is just an inconvenience.

Apple does have an amazing CPU design team team.


I agree... except they did say it will work w/ sunglasses. *
by civil_engr05  (2017-09-13 07:39:20)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


X gonna give it to ya.
by EricCartman  (2017-09-12 16:24:00)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If feel like Apple is missing a golden opportunity to use numerous DMX tracks to promote their new device and Apple Music. (That's called a two-fer where I am from.)

Apple also released the iPhone 8. For those of us that are into second class products.


You can watch porn on an android for half the cost.
by Wooderson  (2017-09-12 16:00:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Both device make phone calls, send texts, and surf the web.

It's really just a cult at this point. As evidenced by my co-workers gathering around a screen to circle jerk each other as I was actually doing work.


The comparable Android device, Note8, starts at $930
by Boston Domer  (2017-09-12 16:36:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's not far out of line with their prices. No shit it's going to cost more than whatever HTC is putting out.


I got flack form my boss for ordering a Pixel XL
by Wooderson  (2017-09-13 08:43:22)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Which is essentially an HTC.

It does basically everything this iphone does, as well as VR (and not horribly, either).

He didn't understand that buying on a monthly payment plan is more expensive than buying unlocked.


1/3 the price
by fontoknow  (2017-09-12 16:04:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The moto G5S+ is a darn good phone and will set you back about 300 bucks.


OnePlus 5 is incredible deal for the price.
by KeoughCharles05  (2017-09-13 15:33:31)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Flagship specs at under $500.

I greatly enjoyed my OnePlus One and 3T so far.


Just got a Galaxy S7 refurb at that price. *
by Irish Tool  (2017-09-12 16:21:09)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


pencils are flammable (link)
by Final_Flanner  (2017-09-12 15:59:57)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Can I use FaceID to open my Equifax app? *
by Irishted  (2017-09-12 15:57:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


[golf clap] *
by Cash  (2017-09-12 20:14:09)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The bigger news is probably that Apple Watch
by grnd  (2017-09-12 15:52:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

got full cellular. Not sure what the iphone X gets you other than a larger screen, no home button, and the ability to animate yourself as a talking pile of shit.


The Watch advances are encouraging.
by IAND75  (2017-09-12 16:04:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The heart monitor function is still very early but has a lot of potential. The A-Fib stuff is just the beginning, but is very common.

I still think that Apple's role in health long term is important. Not only the Watch but health records and other sensors.


How are they going to alert on Afib events
by rflor  (2017-09-12 16:26:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

without having to certify as a medical device?

Maybe they are and it's not evident from the launch day blogs, but I can't see the FDA being too excited about these claims without the appropriate certifications.


That's why I said it is early. They are doing a research
by IAND75  (2017-09-12 16:36:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

project with Stanford on this. My take from what Cook said is that people with the watch will be able to work with Stanford and will be able to sign up in the coming months. He did mention that the FDA is interested in working with them on this and that they have been very good to work with.

I know that a lot of people use the monitor that you attach to the back of your phone and then hold with both thumbs. My mother-in-law uses it but struggles at time. If she could use the watch for this reason it would be great.

But it isn't ready for prime time this month.


Ah ok...that was unclear from the blog transcripts
by rflor  (2017-09-12 16:55:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Good to hear it's focused on research studies.

Although once they have their first FDA audit, Tim may change his tune on the partnership. Registering applications as a medical devices is an...interesting...process.


Link to updated CNBC story on it. (link)
by IAND75  (2017-09-12 17:08:31)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


These things wreak neurological chaos.
by Papa November  (2017-09-12 16:09:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I can't even do a neurological evaluation in someone wearing one. I tell everyone to avoid them.


Can you elaborate on how iwatch causes neurological chaos? *
by arch_moore  (2017-09-12 20:14:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


See below. *
by Papa November  (2017-09-12 22:04:06)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Can I ask what you mean, neurological chaos?
by bruuce  (2017-09-12 16:21:36)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Are you saying that the watch actually influences the wearer's neurologic function?
Not sure what you're saying.


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
by Papa November  (2017-09-12 21:58:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

In the world of functional neurology, we have a number of ways to test the state of the nervous system. But the first thing I do with every client is perform a couple high-level checks looking for either "global hypertonicity" or "switching."

Let me preface by saying that the nervous system follows very firm rules. A useful analogy is to think of traffic: green means go, red means stop, a right blinker means a right turn, etc. When everyone abides by these rules, the "output" is normal and functional. That is, everyone gets where they're going in one piece. (Just ignore the variables of people not paying attention, bad weather, etc. for the purpose of this analogy.) If suddenly someone decides red means go, then chaos ensues.

The nervous system behaves in the same fashion. Specific stimuli should always elicit a specific response, even when the stimulus is very low level. e.g. if you hold your arm out in front of you and I press down, the deltoid should be strong enough to keep your arm in place against a reasonable force. But if I touch you even lightly on the top of the hand with something sharp, you *should* lose the ability to hold the arm up against force. This is just a very low level withdrawal response, differing from pulling your hand away from a hot stove, or pulling away from someone tickling you, only in the strength of the stimulus. Again, this is a normal, healthy response.

Someone who is globally hypertonic (literally, "too much tone") does not respond to any low level stimulus. A light poke on the hand, a "spindle cell compression," cartilage reflex (how a bull ring works)... none of these actually create the response they should. It's analogous to being plugged into a socket. There is a source of electrical noise in the system loud enough to seize up the works. Now, if you actually touch a hot stove, that is certainly enough stimulus for the brain to "hear it" over the source of electrical noise, and you will pull your hand away. The problem is that *most* of our need for proper response to stimulus is not an emergency. i.e. the stimulus is much lower. And the brain cannot hear or respond appropriately.

Someone who is switched is in the highest state of neurological disorganization. Instead of being non-responsive, their brain responds, but chaotically and incorrectly. These people, if they have been in this state long enough (years), will often present as jittery, uncomfortable in their own skin, mentally slow, ADD, brain-foggy, easily startled, etc. All of those symptoms are the result of a brain that can't tell green from red, left from right, start from stop, etc. The brain is basically guessing how best to respond.

With my experience, I can tell if I am personally in one of these states almost instantly. Most people cannot. Like smoking cigarettes or living on junk food, you probably aren't going to notice the symptoms in the short term. But you'd damn well better believe you will notice them in the long term.

Both of the problem states I just described come from having too much electrical noise in the system. The brain depends on accurate, consistent, reliable information (in the form of electrical input) in order to keep you functioning properly. When that input becomes aberrant, then the output becomes aberrant. Over time, this leads to pain, weakness, poor organ/gland function, and any variety of symptoms.

The problem with strapping a high-powered electrical device directly to your body is that the device is a source of electrical information. It can't read your nervous system without interacting with it. And if it's interacting with it, it isn't just receiving information, it is sending it. And the information is garbage. Your brain isn't capable of saying, "Oh, that information is coming from a foreign device, just ignore it." Your brain is responding to every byte of information it is receiving 24 hours a day. It has no choice but to attempt to process and respond to the electrical information (either direct, or via EMF) its receiving. Again, if the information is gibberish, the responses will be gibberish.

I have never, ever, seen someone who can wear an iWatch and still exhibit normal neurological responses to stimulus. They are always either globally hypertonic, globally weak, or switched. As soon as the watch is removed, they return to normal. Sometimes, I can just cover the sensors on the back of the watch with electrical tape, and the watch no longer causes this effect. Other times, it's still a problem, indicating the issue is probably not direct input from the sensors, but rather EMF.

This is not negotiable. I have hundreds of colleagues doing this work around the country, and they all find the same thing. Whether you experience symptoms and how quickly depends on what else is "wrong" in the system (i.e. how much noise is already present by default), and how much processing power your brain has. (Processing power has no correlation with intelligence.) A person with a faster processor and more RAM (to use a computer analogy) can tolerate more noise in the system without experiencing symptoms. And some people can smoke cigarettes for 50 years and not die of lung cancer. That doesn't mean smoking isn't bad for your health.


it is bizarre that this hasn't made more noise
by flapjack  (2017-09-13 10:54:17)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I have never, ever, seen someone who can wear an iWatch and still exhibit normal neurological responses to stimulus... I have hundreds of colleagues doing this work around the country, and the all find the same thing.

Do you have any thoughts on why this loss of reflex response (and the hypothetical implications) haven't been shared more widely (or published)?

Apple watch causes this problem... what about a cell phone in the pocket?


What about fitbits? *
by gozer  (2017-09-13 01:27:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yes, same problem. *
by Papa November  (2017-09-13 07:59:32)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


All they do is flash green light against your skin.
by CMillar  (2017-09-12 16:51:27)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I can't see how that would impact anything.

The chest straps that are electrically conductive I could see possibly causing some issues.


Apple finally made a Brian Kelly emoji? *
by ThreeD  (2017-09-12 15:54:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Nice *
by Rallying Son  (2017-09-12 22:40:55)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


But will it fit in my pocket?
by circle07  (2017-09-12 15:39:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I love how we still refer to these things as computers in our pockets but they haven't really fit in pockets for years now. No, having a $$$ device peep up an inch or more over the top of your shirt or pants pocket does not qualify as "fit."

Cool features take up space, but I'm hoping in a few more years these things will get back to the size of the iPhone 5, the clear pinnacle of phone form factor.


The iPhone SE is what you're looking for.
by CMillar  (2017-09-12 16:52:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Internals of the 6S, form factor of the 5.


Great little phone *
by thecontrarian (click here to email the poster)  (2017-09-13 08:19:43)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Precisely why I have it!
by circle07  (2017-09-12 17:56:23)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But it is getting a little dated in terms of hardware. Still works great, but a little slow in some situations and I wouldn't kick a better camera out of bed...


Still clutching onto my 5.
by doolinbanjos  (2017-09-12 16:38:11)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I will probably move away from Apple when it finally kicks the bucket, but oddly it is the Apple Watch that may keep me in the family. I am addicted to getting and responding to texts without getting my phone out of my pocket (which, as you note, the iphone 5 fits into).


42 Bucks a month, assuming replacement after 2 years
by fontoknow  (2017-09-12 15:37:58)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and since you're buying a 1000 phone, you're probably replacing it before 2 years is up.