Saw this and thought of your post.
Union oyster house, mikes pastry, any Italian joint in north end.
Holy Donut for breakfast
Duckfat for lunch
I would go for lunch and dinner every day. For the rest of my life.
And Central Provisions.
You guys are the best. This is all great information.
Others will have ideas within the city, with some good views of the Inner Harbor, or gritty locales in the hoods. One place with great crab cakes is G&M Restaurant. It's near the Beltway (695) and the Baltimore-Washington Parkway, so not a very scenic spot. The building isn't rustic. But the crab cakes are great, and you can head right on down to the Inner Harbor from there.
In Boston go to Neptune Oyster in the North End. It does not take reservations so get there before 5 pm otherwise you will be hanging outside for an hour waiting for a seat.
Never been to modern pastry.
Or even if you do.
It's their version of a pizza and the closest to the real thing in southern Italy. De Lorenzo's in Robbinsville is a good bet but there are probably a few more that will be just as good. Let Yelp be your friend.
And if you missed pork roll as a sandwich or breakfast accompaniment while you were in Philly Trenton is the place to make up for your oversight.
Ill keep it to mostly modest priced places. Obviously you can find tons of places where meals start at $100 and you will love every bite, but for a 13 year old I would assume you are looking for modest, fun, interesting places with history and/or just great food
JG Melons, PJ Clarkes or Corner Bistro, also see Old Town below
Katz or Defontes
Old Town Bar, Grand Central Oyster Bar,or Frances tavern
Lombardis, Juliannas (go instead of Grimaldis which is next door), Lucalis, Johns on Bleeker, Robertas, or Di Fara
Nathans in Coney Island
Keens, Peter Lugers, Delmonicos, or Sparks
Dinosaur BBQ or Hometown BBQ
Calexico Food Truck, La Esquina
Little Italy spot (but i would recommend Arthur Avenue spots instead)
I've only been twice (probably about 5 years ago for the first time) but the steak this time was not very good. I would definitely check out one of the other places if you want a steakhouse.
but I wouldn't identify any BBQ with NYC.
of the QBB this month. I eagerly await a visit.
DBC, you should try John Brown, easy ride for you on the G train. Let me know if you go, and I'll meet you.
Hope all's well this week.
EDIT: Changed the name I had it backwards for the new BBQ place. It's a Texas Brisket place too, should be good.
i dont make it to LIC too often
I emailed you back, you get it?
there is some very good bbq places in NYC. Hometown is pretty freaking amazing.
thats where it should be
Philly's major food groups are cheesesteaks, soft pretzels, hoagies, roast pork sandwiches, pork roll (by way of Trenton), scrapple, water ice, and ice cream.
The common theme among these foods is that they're pretty much working class foods, so I'd say don't overthink it too much.
For breakfast (scrapple), you could check out Dutch Eating Place, a diner in Reading Terminal Market. The apple and blueberry fritters at Beiler's right around the corner are awesome too. Or you could hit up pretty much any spot that serves breakfast for a pork roll egg and cheese sandwich.
Cheesesteaks: I may get pelted with empties, but I say go to Pat's and Geno's. As far tourist traps go, this one isn't so bad. For as much debate as there is locally about the best and worst cheesesteaks, there really isn't a huge difference among the big spots. I say go have some fun with your son, try both, and decide which you like better so that you too can now be an asshole arguing on the internet. For the record, when doing the tourist thing my order is a "whiz wit" and Pat's 4 Life.
Soft pretzels: Buy them from a street vendor and put mustard on it. It's a pretzel, it won't blow your mind but it's a Philly staple. Edit: I should note that I don't mean a Super Pretzel brand pretzel here. The pretzel should look like an oblong 8 see linked image below.
Hoagies: Tons of chains here as well as pretty much every pizza shop. If you're going to seek a spot out, I'd recommend Dan's Fresh Meats.
Roast pork: This is the hipster answer to Philly's best sandwich. Top spots are Dinic's in the Reading Terminal Market or John's Roast Pork (they also have a really good cheesesteak). Get it with greens and sharp provolone. The greens will either be spinach or broccoli rabe (pronounced rob). I prefer the rabe but just a heads up that they're a little more bitter than spinach.
Ice cream: Another Reading Terminal Market spot, Basset's, basically invented Philadelphia style ice cream. Imagine what Breyers used to taste like and that's what you're getting there.
Water ice: Might be late in the season for most places, but Rita's should still be open and they have multiple locations. Stick to cherry, lemon, chocolate, or root beer and you'll be good. I like to get a gelati which is soft serve custard layered with water ice.
Like I said, this is what Philadelphians eat day in and day out but there's a pretty good food scene emerging outside of these to explore too. Let me know if you're looking for recs for finer dining or more ethnic options.
New England typically does their fairs from Labor Day-Columbus Day and early October is the best time to soak in the leaves. Go to Boston if you much but try to spend a few days in Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont driving some back country roads.
13 year old me would be all, "curses! foliaged again!!!"
That's a great idea. I don't have a solid plan for the return home. We might need to swing back through VT and NH, then come back down along the Hudson.
The Eastern State Expo is the closest thing we have to a State Fair, and it runs through Oct 1st. It's just off of I-90, so you can hit it up, then keep going west to the Hudson to pick up 87 at Albany.
for breakfast. Probably the best pancakes and biscuits and gravy you will ever have.
Not the pasteurized sh!t sold in stores. The fresh-pressed stuff only available at farm stands.
Nothing is better than fresh apple cider.
And a grinder. And a red snapper hot dog on a split top bun. And ice cream (preferably coffee) from a dairy farm.
I am sure you will have your pick of lobster shacks on the way to Maine, but Abbot's Lobster in the Rough is really great.
Pepe's Pizza is usually among the 'best pizza' places in the United States.
Its fine and all, but for a pizza place always in the top 10 I think its pretty much a let down. If in the area I guess to say you went there its fine, but I would never suggest going out of your way to eat there.
If going to New Haven and looking for a story place, check our Louis Lunch, who supposedly invented the hamburger.
Betting you ordered take out or didn't eat a clam pie.
had most of their go to pies. Like I said, its good. But not worthy of a top 10 pizza place in the country. I dont even know if it should win top 10 in Connecticut, but I would have to do alot of research on that
I can see you not ranking it in the top 10, but I can't really understand somebody ranking it below a B+ - it is very solid pizza.
just the idea that it is a top 10 pizza place I completely disagree with. Not the posters list, its a pretty common pick for pizza lists done by websites, expert foodies, etc.
its a fine pizza place, just wouldnt go out of my way for it.
Pizza arguments are endless.
There are also other lobster places in and around Noank. Some I even prefer to Abbot's (I'm looking at you, Ford's!) but Abbot's is also a 'destination' sort of place.
If he stays on 95 up through Providence both are worth a look as options. But if he takes 91>84 there is no harm in missing either.
Also, it's very New England of a place founded in 1930 to be called "Modern."
dishes. Pulled Pork, cheesesteaks, chinese, seafood, Pennsylvania Dutch, etc. Plus, you can walk to Independence Hall from there. Some might say you need to go to Geno's or Pat's Steaks - I think you can get better cheesesteaks at Jim's, Tony Luke's and most corner delis in the city (like the ones in Reading Terminal Market) rather than those places.
If you want a good dinner, ElVez has tremendous guacamole and fish tacos; if you want seafood, try the Sansom Street Oyster House.
Is scrapple something I need to try?
there is always the ketchup vs maple syrup debate. I go with ketchup.
although originally from Long Island
Well, at least you don't say Taylor ham so that's a start I guess.
I think a 13yo from TN would get a kick out of South Street.
that would be some Tennessee culture shock.
CE missed a turn on the highway the other day when we wanted to go to Walter's and I still haven't forgiven him. That is how much I love Walters.
Easy access off of I-95, amazing food at both (partial to Rawley's, as is Martha Stewart) and you can't beat the price, the taste, or the ambiance.
CT has a whole trail of Diners/Drive-Ins/Dives off of CT Rt 25. Worth a google. The ones up 25 are a bit out of the way, but you could make a go of it by taking 25 north from Bridgeport, CT, hitting a few stops, and continuing on to I-84 which takes you to I-90 and I-495 (circles around Boston and gets you to Maine faster).
I used to work at a summer camp in the Catskills during college and loved doing drives through CT on days off. I haven't been back to that area (other than NYC) since then and am looking forward to it. I appreciate your input. And who doesn't want a super duper weenie?