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hold on there by DBCooper

ndzippy called me a pansy and then continued to call me that. This why I gave him a fuck off comment. Thats why i went off. I think you know enough of my posting style that I have little use for personal shots and bully posts. We are all ND alums (or strong fans) and should act more adult when talking to each other. So, That sets me off. But you said you didnt see that, so thats why Im explaining, but it was in his posts right before mine. I would never, NEVER, NEVER, Never, try to act bigger or cooler or tougher, or whatever then anyone here, unless provoked, and then Im only doing it to get back at the initial insult (which I wouldnt start). I dont know ndzippy at all. Im sure he is a great guy, but I have no patience for someone calling me a pansy or any other derogatory comment.

As far as Kelly, I have repeatedly stated I dont think he is a national championship caliber coach. But I get tired of the constant negativity toward him with this view that he sucks as a coach. If he sucked he would not have gotten the team into that position to be embarrassed by Bama or Clemson. We would be like a mid tier Big 10 team who was hoping for 7/8 wins. So I give him credit for that, but fully acknowledge he isnt going to get us to the promise land. Which is all i care about. I also have an issue when people just say oh there are plenty of others who could equal Kelly or be better and so its easy to find his replacement. I dont think its easy. As I mentioned to Across, if it were easy some of these programs where winning is alot easier than ND (because of their backyard recruiting pool) would not continue to struggle to find a good HC. To ndzippys credit he came up with a list of 20 or so names he thinks are equal or better than Kelly. I disagree with alot of that list. Most of those coaches have had embarrassing losses to unranked teams. Kelly, to his credit, has not really had that over the last 5 years. So he is in the middle ground of a HC for ND. Good enough to win dozens of games in a row against shitty teams (whoopie de doo), but not good enough to win against the top 5/top 10 teams.

I also think it makes fans sound foolish when they make extreme comments like that. Not that people here would or should care, but if you make comments like Kelly sucks over and over again, people on the outside will think you are just chicken little or an incessant complainer and will not respect you later on when you really Should voice concern over the current coach.

So I am aware of your comment that he sucks against the top 10 teams. That fits his MO. But that doesnt change my opinion of him as a good Tier 2 HC. Im sure other good Tier 2 coaches have mediocre to poor records against top 10 teams.


I apologize to my comment to you above. I like you as a poster, and really appreciate you working on changing your posting style. That is not easy to do and recognize. I got tired of other posters telling me something where numerous times I have stated the opposite, so I blew off the handle on you. Should not have done so.