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Yeah, it's not that we have gotten less good by gordonbombay

Our teams are, especially from a fundamental perspective, as good the last few years as any ND team since Lou left, which to revressbo's point is why our floor has been much higher with Kelly 2.0. The problem for us is that the elite class has improved even more than ND has. Other than taking recruits directly from them (which would be peachy), what ND can do about that seems to be limited.