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I don't think anyone quibbles with your origin story by ACross

I, and others, are speaking of the exodus and the schismatic events and viewpoints.

Some were too stupid or insane or consumed with animus to survive here. e.g., hobbs, jacks daddy, naughmann, fourcentscheaper. Some preferred rainbows and cotton candy. Some preferred less noise. Some (let's call them the types of guys who are not employed in the football business but attend football coaching camps) preferred footbaw tawk.

It has been a long, long 24 years since Holtz left. It has not necessarily brought out the best in people on either side of the aisle.