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had a chance to speak to a guy who was recruited by Holtz by jt

and Cerratto in the spring of 87 (or right around there). Foge showed him around campus, Holtz had a meet and greet with people and there was a Q and A at the end. Someone asked Holtz how he was going to turn things around and he said something like "when you have a flat tire, you don't go change the engine, you go out and change the tire" which basically was saying that some of the players needed changing. Of course, that was at a recruiting event, but the guy said that you could see his demeanor change when the question was asked.