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Colleges seem notoriously bad at getting administrators and by Raoul

professors to retire. Businesses rarely have people older than 65 in positions of leadership. As you note, Swarbrick will be 70 in three years and I have a hard time seeing him not still at ND. That is a problem. Same with Jenkins.

The order of change will have to be: Jenkins >> Swarbrick >> Kelly. Jenkins is already 67. Damn - They may all three be around in 5 years.