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My point by Twinkie the Kid

My point is that the opponent matters. You seem hung up on name of bowl rather than quality of opponent. The New Years Day bowls are so watered down now with the advent of the CFP. That is where we differ in opinion. Why celebrate a hypothetical win over, for example, North Carolina this year had ND made the Orange Bowl? Because it's the Orange Bowl? No thanks. I'll pass on the "2021 Orange Bowl Champs!!!!!" t-shirts.