In reply to: Adrian Beltre, Joe Mauer and Todd Helton to the Hall * posted by sprack
about being prescribed stuff by Victor Conte (head guy at Balco) to deal with his post surgery recovery (creams, etc.) and not taking anything heavier than that. He also only worked out with Barry a few weeks before they had a falling out (not hard to believe) and says that he didn't do anything out of the ordinary. This is backed up by Conte.
Now, I had thought that there was something else there but perhaps I am mistaken.
Alex, on the other hand, is just a total fucking liar and was the whole time.
than evidence produced during law enforcement investigations or early official positive MLB tests/suspensions. Also, the more vociferously PED use was denied (including in front of Congress or while denigrating those who truthfully reported of their use) the more that is held against the player. The Report is probably mostly right, but the investigative process left some room for doubt when pinpointing particular individuals.
A-Rod apologized also (unlike, say, Bonds) but he also got suspended an entire year first. That probably sticks in the writers’ minds.
It's not hard to figure out. Clemens gets less flack than Bonds because Bonds was a world class asshole even though Bonds is arguably one of the Top 10 players in MLB history.
Just one illustration of a lifetime of behavior/attitude...
I'll let it stand on it's own.
His vote totals have been right in line with Bonds' despite being arguably the greatest pitcher in MLB history. Probably because Clemens was a bit of an asshole too.
As a kid George Brett and Roger Clemens were my two favorite players.
I think Clemens is viewed as less of an asshole because most of his Asshole moments are on-field and are viewed as manifestations of being overly competitive.
Post-retirement interviews with Clemens make him seem like a good guy who might be wound a little tight. Bonds on the other hand got his asshole rep mainly from off-field interactions (though Leyland in Spring Training stands out) mainly from the media and I'm sure do contain a racial component. His post-retirement interviews make him seem charming and chill, but I personally get a phony vibe from him at times when he isn't discussing something technical or specific.
I will also state that we can be virtually certain that Clemens turned to PEDs after leaving Boston. Many claim Bonds only started using after the 1998 HR chase between McGwire and Sosa. I dispute that and think it started earlier but likely turned up a notch after 1998. Face and body changes were evident by 96 IMO.