As long as the city and state give no funding, sure.
by dfw (2024-01-19 09:29:04)

In reply to: Reinsdorf in talks to build a new stadium at Roosevelt and  posted by dwjm3


And, if they are dumb enough to give money, any dollar given must have the precondition that it will be only be given to an ownership group not including any Reinsdorf in any way.


Prediction. Huge TIF funds but no other public money *
by baronbutler  (2024-01-23 14:08:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I don’t think people understand the Sox ownership structure
by sprack  (2024-01-19 13:08:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

None of the money ever went to Reinsdorf directly.

He’s the managing general partner, with an ownership stake of 19%. (He owns 40% of the Bulls). This is not like the Ricketts or McCaskey or Wirtz families that own outright majority shares of their teams.


I will have to go back and look at the info I had...
by Kbyrnes  (2024-01-21 02:11:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...which is now about 10 years old. I understand that as manager of the GP entity he holds a minority stake but has management control, and that there are various limited partners. In any case, the net profit from their collective ownership has to go somewhere, and as I've noted before, the lease for the stadium is very, very favorable for the White Sox. Officially, like many MLB clubs, they say they lose money, but I find this hard to believe in any practical sense. I would guess it's more like someone who owns rental property, like a 16-flat. On your tax return, up top, you have gross rental income and then any miscellaneous income (like laundry or tenant services). Then you have operating expenses related to the real estate, including debt service. For most owners there is gross profit at this point; but then you get to take depreciation, which doesn't literally take cash out of your pocket for the year in question, but for many smaller-scale real estate owners it helps them declare a loss for tax purposes.


My first job I helped on audits of some Habitat Co buildings
by sprack  (2024-01-23 11:34:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

McHugh Construction was our largest client, and they partnered with Habitat in construction of some high rent apartment buildings in the city (or something like that). In any case we did some audits relating to ownership of those buildings.

This was before the Tax Reform Act of 1986, so it was even more "open" than it is today for taking investment losses on real estate to reduce taxes.

The most interesting thing was the list of investors. Three I remember specifically in some of the buildings were Jerry Lewis, Buddy Hackett, and Sammy Davis, Jr. I can tell people that now, but back then my boss said not tell anyone who the investors were, and he meant *anyone* outside the firm, friends, family it didn't matter.


Why does the Sox structure matter?
by dfw  (2024-01-19 21:53:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Yes, he's the managing partner and the remaining partners get nothing from their investment unless it's sold. They do get access to a box at the park and a golden ticket to get into any MLB game as any MLB owner gets.

My statement was that no public money should go to the build a new park. And then, if they are dumb enough to give money to the project, then it should be on the condition that Reinsdorf sells.

I understand the money wouldn't directly go to Reinsdorf, but if the state pays for part of the project it is equivalent to giving money to Reinsdorf.