today's mostly worthless trivia
by kdh325 (2017-02-23 20:29:00)
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this pitcher has the record for most homers in a game by a pitcher (3), and is also only one of four pitchers to hit a homer while tossing a no-hitter.


I was on the phone last night with a friend.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2017-02-24 13:17:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

His guess is Whitey Ford (yes, said friend is from Long Island.)

My second guess is Walter Johnson.


wow...I'm honored that "Mostly Worthless" has evolved
by kdh325  (2017-02-25 16:36:00)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to include a lifeline.


Whitey never had a no hitter *
by DBCooper  (2017-02-24 13:57:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Instead, he got some consolation prizes.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2017-02-24 16:21:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

10× All-Star (1954–1956, 1958, 1959, 1960–1961², 1964)
6× World Series champion (1950, 1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962)
Cy Young Award (1961)
World Series MVP (1961)
3× AL wins leader (1955, 1961, 1963)
2× MLB ERA leader (1956, 1958)
New York Yankees #16 retired
Yankee record for most victories by a pitcher.
Various other records.


trivia bonus: Whitey Ford's first name was.... *
by kdh325  (2017-02-25 16:33:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Edwin
by SixShutouts66  (2017-02-25 23:22:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But what is Whitey Lockman's?


Edward, actually for Ford, as for Lockman, I did not
by kdh325  (2017-02-26 08:31:39)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

know (but I do now), but I do know Whitey Herzog's (STL fan and all)


Caucasian *
by TJK1998  (2017-02-25 20:13:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Never trust Whitey *
by sprack  (2017-02-26 15:07:57)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I know that...
by Slotts  (2017-02-24 12:35:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Rick Wise hit 2 HR's in a game while throwing a no-hitter, because I watched it on TV. For the Phillies in 1970 or 1971 I think. Against the Reds.


ummm, no you don't
by kdh325  (2017-02-24 22:40:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Jim Tobin hit THREE dingers in a game and threw a no-no with a homer. But it was a good guess.


No, you misunderstood, I didn't know the answer to your
by Slotts  (2017-02-25 15:19:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

question. I just said I know that Rick Wise hit 2 in a no-hitter. He also had a double.


my bad, but just so you know, when I researched the
by kdh325  (2017-02-25 16:30:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

question it was Wise that actually inspired the question. I thought for sure he was the answer, but when I checked to make sure, I found that I was wrong. So we're even.


Even? That's way better than usual. Keep the questions ...
by Slotts  (2017-02-25 19:53:38)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

coming. I really enjoy them.


1971, just looked it up
by sprack  (2017-02-24 12:42:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Here's a stat that jumped out:

The game was on June 23. IIRC it was a perfect night for baseball.

The Phillies weren't a good team but the Reds were defending NL champions, having lost to your Orioles in the '70 World Series.

The attendance? Only 13,329. And it's not because people didn't love the Reds in Cincy. They adored them.

It was a different time in many ways.


One thing about Reds home attendance
by ShermanOaksND  (2017-02-24 17:52:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is that even when they've drawn well (e.g., they led MLB in attendance in 1976), they drew significantly better for Friday-Saturday-Sunday games than midweek games, with the exception of Opening Day which is a big tradition there. I assume this is because a large portion of the Reds fan base lives outside the Cincinnati metro area, and it would be easier for such fans to travel to Cincinnati for weekend games than midweek ones.

June 23, 1971 was a Wednesday, and as you note, the Phillies were bad (although the Reds started nearly as poorly as the Phils that year, and they never got over .500). The Reds drew in the mid-30s the preceding weekend against a middling Braves team.


Isn't everybody's attendance better on the weekend than
by Slotts  (2017-02-24 20:37:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

midweek? I would assume that is always true.


Generally, yes, but the difference is starker for some teams
by ShermanOaksND  (2017-02-25 11:32:56)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

than for others. The Cubs wouldn't be illustrative today because most of their games sell out. But the 1971 Cubs are a good comparison to the 1971 Reds, as the teams had fairly similar records (83-79 vs. 79-83) and neither was in particularly serious contention for the postseason. For the Reds, the biggest determinant of crowd size was the day of the week. For the Cubs, that was a factor too, but so was the opponent, and also the calendar. They drew big crowds for midweek games against the Mets, Reds, and Pirates, because those series were in the summer. They naturally sold out for their season opener against the Cards on Tuesday, April 6, but they also drew over 23,000 for game 2 the next day. When the Astros visited 2 weeks later, the crowds were well under 10,000; this was 17 years before Wrigley had lights. The Mets drew much better for a mid-week series in July than a weekend series in April. The Reds hosted the Dodgers at the same time, and had bigger crowds for 2 of the April dates.


I have two guesses, can't split 'em
by sprack  (2017-02-24 11:04:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Is it Tony Cloninger or Rick Wise?

I know Cloninger has a single game home run record for pitchers, but I can't remember if it's that one or if he's the only pitcher to have had two grand slams in a game.


Good guesses *
by art fern  (2017-02-24 11:34:38)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Two guesses
by art fern  (2017-02-24 10:17:12)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

1. Warren Spahn

if not,

2. Bob Feller


Spahn was a great hitting pitcher
by sprack  (2017-02-24 12:38:33)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He hit 35 career home runs.

He had his first no hitter at the age of 39. He had his second at the age of 40.

I have no idea if he's the answer to this question, though.


Guess
by Groundhog  (2017-02-24 01:23:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Babe Ruth


The Sultan of Swat never threw a no-hitter *
by sprack  (2017-02-24 14:16:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Though he did pitch in a game in which no hits were allowed *
by Father Nieuwland  (2017-02-24 14:22:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


No other baserunners, either
by sprack  (2017-02-24 16:58:03)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The runner Ruth had walked was caught stealing and Ernie Shore got the next 26 men out.


The first name to come to my mind.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2017-02-23 20:49:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Thank you for posting that and not a Jockey ad *
by Cartwright  (2017-02-23 21:46:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Trust me when I say I was tempted. *
by G.K.Chesterton  (2017-02-23 21:56:00)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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