During the numerous fan cam playings, whenever they showed someone wearing a Duke shirt, the crowd loudly booed. The only other team fans that got booed at all were Iowa and Michigan St. which made sense given the Big 10 rivalries.
During one game, the folks running that board kept coming back to a 12 year old wearing a Duke jersey and he took it in good stride.
...even if it meant scUM getting to the Sweet 16.
But it's a close call.
Michigan fans are especially obnoxious right now since ND and MSU both lost. It's like they just remembered that they have a basketball program. I'm going to start asking them to name a person on the team (not that I would know or care whether they're right or not).
And now the SEC fans are also crowing about the ACC being down to one.
87% of ESPN Tournament Challenge brackets had Duke in the Sweet 16.
5% of brackets had South Carolina in the Sweet 16.
It is amazing how little Coach K did with so much. I would really be interested to see what Coach Brey would do with that team.
...and the impact they made in their 9 months practicing and playing in Cameron Indoor Stadium will never be forgotten by proud Duke University alumni the world over. The pride those folks must feel in watching those young men wear their Duke colors for an entire winter (not to mention a small portion of the preceding fall) will never leave them.
Postscript--I'm not knocking Tatum or Giles. They are talented players and seem like fine kids who are just playing the game by the rules established by the king makers. I am, however, mocking the rat-faced hypocrite sellout "educator" who sold his one-and-done soul for first round knockouts to Mercer and Lehigh and a second round knockout to South Carolina.
Have some cheese, rat.
and the impact they made in their 9 months (MINUS ONE WEEK WHEN K WOULDN'T LET THEM WEAR THEIR DUKE UNIFORMS OR COME INTO THE LOCKER ROOM TO SHOW THEM THEY NEEDED TO PLAY HARDER) practicing and playing in Cameron Indoor Stadium will never be forgotten by proud Duke University alumni the world over
your handle. Brings back memories of running to Naugles for some "food" before heading over to a buddy's house to watch America's Cup from Down Under in 1987.
and not fouling up your own crib after a Naugles run.
They're incredulous when a foul is called on the press.
He just looks like a prick.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. At least for a night.
1. Long-term success (credit where it's due, after all, who wants to hate on a perennial loser?).
2. They have a large cheering section among the national media, which doesn't even try particularly hard to hide it.
3. They get the benefit of the doubt from game officials, and take advantage of that with numerous defensive flops and overly aggressive play.
4. Their program is not nearly as squeaky-clean as they want you to believe it is.
Thing is, North Carolina checks EVERY SINGLE ONE of those boxes as well, yet they somehow escape the universal hatred thing. I'm at a loss as to explain why.
Like publicly reprimanding an opposing team for celebrating an upset.
I don't really mind the one-and-done thing. That's the current rule, and ND would take them too if they'd commit.
They are a direct affront to everything that Brey and ND stand for, pretenders in every sense of the word.
I wonder how Jayson Tatum's spring semester schedule is shaping up. I'll bet whatever it is would be news to him.
Academic Progress Rate (APR) is the measurement that the NCAA instituted about 10 years ago to hold schools accountable for educating their athletes for whatever time they are in school. It's the stat that made UConn ineligible for the 2013 postseason and unable to defend its 2012 championship.
APR measures term-to-term academic progress, so an athlete who ignores the second semester knowing he will enter the draft will do serious damage to his program's score. The days of taking the no-show 0.0 GPA ended with the implementation of APR.
The most recent APR reporting year is 2015. Duke's score was 995. Notre Dame's was 974. People in glass houses...
Same goes for graduation rates. UNC is trumpeted as an outstanding academic institution, and yet they created an entire department out of thin air that fraudulently credited thousands of students, many athletes included, over the course of nearly two decades. Most schools, even the very good ones, struggle at striking a balance between athletic and academic excellence.
974 is an outstanding score (it had been a perfect 1000 just a couple years ago), and I suspect that we came by it honestly based on how we address our malfeasances. I have no idea how Duke arrives at theirs, other than the fact that basketball is the tail that wags the dog in Durham.
You indicated that their one and done players don't go to spring semester classes. The APR scores say otherwise.
Put up or (be quiet).
count as non-graduates.
Taking one and dones doesn't necessarily mean that you aren't educating them. Frankly, most of the one and dones who have played at Duke seem to be pretty solid kids. There's only a handful of Duke players who I wouldn't want at ND (Grayson Allen).
I don't think K likes the one and done concept himself. His greatest teams were made up of 3 and 4 year players. But he needs the talent to compete. I think he tries to make them better while he has them. I also think he's a far better person than most here want to believe.
I've told this story before, but when I was 9, my 12 year old brother was a huge Duke fan. Being 9, and worshipping my brother, I made him a basketball certificate on our Apple IIe that purported to be from Duke and Coach K. My mom found it and sent it to Duke. K personally signed it, added a handwritten note, and enclosed it with an autographed picture of the 1991 Duke team.
I don't love Duke, but I respect Coach K, and I dont think they're the program this board wishes they were.
I don't understand the board's obsession with it either. By all accounts, K is demanding, can be an asshole (several do not forgive him for how he "went public" to get what he wanted with the Lakers saga) and (understandably) difficult to get to know on a personal level, but very generous with his time and generally speaking, does the right thing.
One thing everyone agrees on there is how proud they are of the program itself and the majority of the students/people it produces. Like ndroman mentioned, there are occasional d-bags, but ND has those guys too.
He spoke to our class and is also a fantastic public speaker.
knew a recent one-and-doner from his dorm.that absolutely quit going to class at the end of the first semester.
If he had wanted to come to ND, I am certain we would have accepted him with open arms.
He takes full 5 player one and done classes and then shuffles any guys who wish to stay more than 2 years out the door. Kentucky is more akin to Alabama football in that regard.
There's been several kids leave who he wanted to stay. His problem is the perception that if you don't succeed as a freshman year, you are a failure. It's used against him in recruiting and it has affected the mindset of some of the kids. He didn't want Kyle Wiltjer, Marcus Lee, Charles Matthews, etc. to leave.
Now, I do think Calipari is harder on kids who aren't freshman. They don't meet his expectations and he is gets a quick trigger with them.
...unless there are some UNC shenanigans going on. Their APR is also respectable (surprisingly)
I don't like the entire one and done concept, but the coaches didn't set up the rules. They're just playing by them. Cal, though, takes it to the extreme.
I find Cal more distasteful for his history at UMass and Memphis. K had been largely clean for nearly 3 decades.
My Timberwolves had the joy of watching Ndudi Ebi "develop". And now we know (kinda) that Harry Giles can't play. He would have been taken #1 under the old system.
As someone who was skeptical of Cal when he went to UK, i've been very surprised with how it's played out. There's only been 1 kid who didn't finish the spring semester (Daniel Orton). Other than that, the majority of the kids have classy individuals who have represented UK well while here and after leaving. Now, i'm not gullible enough to think the other kids are taking hard classes. There's probably some online courses mixed in with some other easy classes. But they aren't leaving once the season is over and they've maintained a relationship with the university after they've left.
And no one here had a problem with Harangody's flopping or Colin Falls creating contact on threes.
We see what we choose to see.