after their freshman year and would have been drafted highly, but waited it out and were drafted very late, if at all.
1. Jason Gardner
2. Chris Thomas
3. Dominic James
Zeller would have gone higher last year than this year, but I don't think he can improve his draft position by another year of college at this point. The professional scouts seem to love potential. Once you give them more time to critique your game, the worse your draft stock is.
His game is fine, but if you can't shoot over people in the NBA, you're screwed.
he can improve more in the NBA going up against real 7 footers than he can in practice against walkons.
Strike when the iron is hot, although from a draft perspective he should have went last year.
he wishes he had now. He would have had one more year's income (at a somewhat higher rate of pay) and he would be one year closer to free agency when the big money comes even for weaker players.
He is a great example of why someone should go as soon as possible.
I susect if McGary is told by credible people he will be 25 or better, he will go. And it will be the right decision for him as well.
the emotional/maturity side of things. I realize very few people do and it can turn into a nightmare.
Cody seemed to enjoy the college life, evidence from twitter Saturday night.
But I am not sure that Cody enjoys college the same way that the typical possibly slightly immature college kid enjoys college.
He certainly didn't enjoy college the way most of the IU alums I know who revel in the fact that IU was named the #1 party school in the nation during their tenure.
does not declare for the draft. Based on everything I've heard, he is a sure 1st rounder and thus his decision makes a lot of sense in terms of finances and personal basketball development. Maybe he won't have a degree or as much fun, but the money and ability to advance one's skills more quickly with greater focus offset that.
considering his two brothers have already gone through this process. I am sure they looked at all the angles. This must be best for him they figured.
From a business point of view its a good call. He'll fall further in the draft if he stays another year.
I did think he would get his degree, though.
consideration for him. If he could extend his range a bit and add some bulk I think he could definitely go higher, but if you're already a guaranteed first rounder, the NBA's collective bargaining agreement doesn't give huge incentives to come back.
I think he's not going to get much better under Crean, but he seemed like he would get his degree and then consider the NBA like his brothers did.
is easier than ever. And he can go over the summer as well and play against the stud Indy local talent.
The guy will graduate at some point and he will be very well off by age 30.
He will get his degree. I don't gamble but I would wager anything for charity. The kid was a 1st team Academic All American in the Kelley School of Business. Everything the family does is incredibly calculated and thought out.
They didn't put the kid through that academic work load of essentially 3 years (4 full- load semesters plus 4 full-load summer sessions) for him not to finish his last 20ish hours. The kid is a creative, entrepreneur type. I won't be surprised if he plays 7-8 years and then gets involved in big business.
Wouldn't be surprised if he starts promoting their products throughout Indiana and whatever local market he ends up. You obviously know how many ridic advantages basketball players have in there.
Chad Ford with ESPN said he would have been a top 5 lottery pick last year but now is probably a fringe lottery pick. He said Zeller didn't improve as expected this year. Another thing, though, was people started picking apart and finding negatives in his game. This is the risk kids take when coming back and not leaving when they are hot.
Plus, another reason it is better for him to leave this year is that this class is very weak. It's one of the weakest draft in years. Next year will be loaded, though. Definitely a better business decision to leave now.
He probably should have left last year physically he wasn't near ready from a maturity/emotional level. Not saying maturity in that he would get in trouble or do something stupid. More like maturity of being on your own, being a professional vs being a fun-loving college kid, small town, being baby of family etc. He wasn't near ready for that last year. I am not sure he is ready for it now. Luckily, his family realized he wasn't ready from that end of it, I think very few even analyze that angle. I don't want to say too much but he is super book intelligent. We all know those super book smart people...
But he will still be a top 12ish pick, make upward of $2M a year for maybe 8 years and start a business. Not a bad life.
I wrote about that in my original post before editing it out. These kids could gain a lot off the court from a sophomore/junior season. Maturity, work ethic, etc. from staying in school could perhaps, lead to a longer and more successful NBA career than leaving as an immature freshman.
But that's a hard decision to make and a hard result to quantify. There are plenty of examples of 'hot' players whose stock fell after coming back to college.
This is something i've thought about a lot as a UK fan. Some of the one-and-dones from the past couple years have indicated they wished they were still at UK the year after going pro. The business and travel of the NBA is hard and I couldn't imaging having that responsibility as a 19 year old. I hate that kids feel they have to jump to the NBA but that's really how it has become.
Things change drastically over night. Lot of these kids have been catered to their entire lives. Now, it is big business.
I don't want people to think I am bashing Zeller either. I am not at all. He/his family did everything the right way. But he was the youngest, small town kid, maybe a bit naive although that isn't really the word I'm looking for. Just a lot to learn, grow up emotionally etc
Every kid's situation is different. I know when I was 18, I was incredibly immature, clueless. I wouldn't have had a clue. Yet, a girl I dated for a couple years in school, she ran circles around me in "life" knowledge, what to do etc. She was basically on her own managing a household from like 13-14 when her mom passed. The differences were amazing. I was probably more intelligent but vastly more stupid about "life" and the "real world". If that makes sense.
I don't think he's strong enough to make an impact in the NBA right away; but his worst case in mock drafts have him being taken #10 (plus or minus), and many have him being near the top of the draft. It's hard to imagine his draft position improving, so it's a good business decision.