I like the guy, but USC chasing him after 1 good year?
who else are they gonna get?
plus his wife could probably get some modeling gigs
Comparing it to Indiana football? They have a local recruiting base with superior talent that is significant. (UCLA/Arizona etc can only take a couple kids a year in basketball) Indiana HS football, although improving, is a joke in the national landscape. Not the case with southern California hoops. With the right coach, they could easily pick up a couple top 100 players every year.
Something like 4 of the previous 6 years, they have at least been in the NCAA tourney. Made the Elite 8 just over a decade ago. The Galen Center is a beautiful building.
Keep in mind, they have had coaches who were at least known and had been head men in other decent gigs. Kevin O'Neill (Marquette, Tennessee and Arizona for a year) Tim Floyd (Iowa State, Bulls), Bibby (long-time NBA player) and Raveling (Wazzu and Iowa). To compare that to Indiana football in any manner is an outrage (coming from an Indiana graduate).
The only comparison to Indiana football (who has the worst winning % in NCAA history) is that both programs are second at their respective schools.
it's done bubkas
they keep retreading coaches - and keep getting the same results
i mean - shoot - indiana is right next to football hotbeds michigan, ohio, and pennsylvania. lot good that's done there over the years (save for bill mallory's brief success).
it's an OK at best job. it should be a top 30-40 gig - but i don't know if it really ever will be.
ND's football program, all the history and advantages should tell you all you need to know about that. There's no substitution for hiring well.
USC's basketball program isn't a top 25 job. But how many programs have made the Elite 8 in the past decade-plus? 4 of the last 6 or so NCAA tourneys etc. They can regularly be in the top 4-5 of the PAC 12. Have a very nice facility in the Galen Center, plus plus recruiting area without a ton of powers on the west coast in college hoops.
Indiana football is the worst job in the Big Ten. Next-to-no fan support or revenue/donations. One of the worst couple jobs in all of BCS football. Indiana is next to those football hotbeds but where do they rank in the pecking order for all the schools in that area who are nabbing 20-25 players per year? (ND, OSU, Michigan, PSU, Pitt, MSU, Purdue, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Louisville, UK, even some mid-major programs) etc. When you have zero local base, it makes the job that much more difficult. Like I said, the lowest winning % in NCAA D1 history. Indiana football has only been to like 7-8 bowl games in school history. Think about that for a second.
With a good hire, USC is prime to be able to pull some LA kids. Particularly with this UCLA hire of Alford. What a colossal misstep that is going to be for a program of that stature. He'll win 22-23 games a season and be gone in 5-seasons.
i didn't realize how much some of you dislike hoosier football
i just sort of pulled that comparison outta my butt - and frankly i don't wanna put it back in there (i have a strict exit only policy)
describe IU football. That was KSU pre-Snyder. It's the best coaching job ever. And I loathe K-State.
USC has an opening, should they choose to capitalize.
this is an opportunity for SC
it would be somewhere in the 20-60 group. Like you said, Indiana Football would be at the bottom of BCS schools and below several non-BCS programs. On a percentile basis it would be a much higher percentile position in BB of the 320 D1 programs (probably 75th percentile) than IU is of the 122 D1 football programs.
To me it is like a Georgia Tech in Football. Not the top program in a state loaded with talent, but certainly capable of good runs when things come together.
Smart flipped them the bird. Now one of their own, Flip, "flipped" them the bird.
This was very predictable. Much of their fanbase has a weird view of the program. They ran off Tubby because he couldn't recruit well? Why did it take so long to figure that out?
Better hope they catch lightning in a bottle with this hire.
Reached out to Smart. No. Reached out to Stevens, obviously no. Reached out to Hoiberg. No. Flip. No.
At least at #5 now.
Jacobson, who may have been the safety net if all else failed, got an extension at Northern Iowa.
Long been rumors, he hasn't been happy at Marquette but this seems like another "hail mary" attempt. Starting to actually feel for them. Even though, it was all too predictable.
Always figured he would end up back in Texas at some point.
and I doubt he's picking Minnesota.
The one thing that might affect where he goes is that he's used to BB being the big deal at MU. At many BCS type schools, FB is the glamour sport. That might not appeal to him.
Personally, if I were him I'd look for a school in the SEC. I think UGA should be much better in hoops than it typically is. Job not open but that is the kind of opportunity where he could be a hero.
I know some have speculated about UT. If Barnes leaves got to believe he'd be interested. Such a great place to coach.
Marquette is historically a better program, has better facilities, and has better fan support.
Minnesota doesn't spend like Marquette, really poor facilities, poor arena (even if Gopher fans love it). No practice facility.
I don't know his feelings on this new conference. Or for that matter why it has been rumored the last couple years that he's been so unhappy there.
It is going to be a pretty serious step down from the Big East. Losing Louisville, Syracuse, ND, UConn and Pittsburgh is significant. Really significant. A lot tougher to recruit to the new conference.
Butler, Gonzaga, and VCU -- the head coach.
New conference has SJU, GTown, Nova, X, Butler. Not like it's terrible.
But it is a much easier recruiting pitch to say you'll be playing in a conference against the likes of Louisville (Pitino), Syracuse (Boeheim) etc.
Is Buzz as committed to Marquette as Few is to Gonzaga? As Stevens is to Butler? Both of those guys have turned down job after job. Schools don't even bother to call Few anymore. Stevens has turned down UCLA, Illinois, Oregon, Minnesota, Tennessee, Missouri etc. What if Texas calls Buzz?
Few is willing to recruit all over, he's a master at identifying underexposed talent. Stevens has the advantage of being right in the middle of a ton of talent in Indianapolis. Indiana, Purdue, MSU, Michigan etc can only take a couple kids per year. Kids like Hayward, Howard, Dunham etc are all very close to campus. I'm a former Butler season ticket holder, I'm pretty familiar with the set up there.
I didn't say the new conference was terrible. It is great for Butler, X and Creighton. Hopefully, they use the increased revenue streams to continue to advance their programs.
However, it is a big step down from national brands (big fan bases) with championships like Louisville, Syracuse and UConn though. Even ND and Pittsburgh are regular NCAA tourney teams and have had a lot of recent Big East success. You think they are going to be able to regularly fill MSG? I think St John's being really good again is vital.
I've said previously I like Buzz. I just don't know how committed he is to Marquette.
Alford's teams have made the NCAAs 7 times in 18 years -- including 6 times in 14 years since he took the Iowa job. His only Sweet 16 trip was in 1999, his last year at SW Missouri State.
UCLA would have been much better off hiring Mike Brey, although I can't imagine Brey woud've taken the job.
$1M on Monday.
Shaka Smart, Brad Stevens, and supposedly Buzz Williams told them hell no.
From all accounts, he's an even bigger asshole. Other than that, he's a downgrade.
UCLA needs to fire Guerrero--what an awful decision.
But hope Westwood enjoys the postseason.
He has been a #3 seed, 3 times...no Sweet 16 and lost each time to double digit seed. And they ran off Lavin.
They should have hired Crean.
Tough to get one or two-and-done players to play the defense Howland stresses. He's not been as willing to adjust as Alford. He has tailored his system much more to his talent from his days in Missouri, to Iowa and now New Mexico. More of a player's coach.
A player's coach who is an asshole. But a sly asshole. He'll be smarter with admin/alumns. As a coach, I don't think Alford can hold Howland's jock.
What was the point of firing Howland? It sounds like they did no due diligence about prospective replacements prior to pulling the trigger.
Digger was a legend that didn't want to go, but was pushes out. It was probably time for him to go, but ND didn't step up to do what was necessary to get a quality coach...college that is. They hired an NBA guy- a good guy- just an NBA guy.
UCLA fired an underperforming coach and hire a decent college coach that just happens to also be pretty loathsome.
I would have also gotten rid of Howland.
But I sure would have had somebody better than Alford locked up beforehand. They are going to regret this hire, and soon.
McLeod was Rosenthal's 4th or 5th choice, and I assume that Alford was the same for UCLA. If you're planning to dump someone for some time, you plan for their succession along the way.
This strikes me as a move in the wrong direction on all counts. Pretty impressive in a perverse sort of way.
Howland must have seriously pissed off people to get canned when they didn't have a guaranteed upgrade waiting in the wings. Shit, wasn't Larry Brown available?
Born on third base as a coach and a jerk to boot. What were they thinking? I would be pissed if ND hired a guy like Alford and would think we had undershot. How can a program like UCLA wind up with a guy like this? Food for thought when we say lets fire Mike Brey and get somebody better. We are always told how hard it is to hire a good coach, Maybe this is compelling evidence.
it will be the kiss of death for Alford. I don't think he'll last more than 2-3 years here.
Is a jerk?
I'll make it harsher than "jerk." Alford is a piece of shit.
of the "intervention". Car salesman, politician...I should have guessed from the perfect hair.
was a few years ago at Iowa when he had a player accused of sexual assault. The player was indicted and on the way to trial. Throughout the process, Alford gave press conference statements proclaiming the player's innocence and basically publicly pressuring the girl. The prosecutor publicly said that the University should cease comment. Alford called up the prosecutor and got into a shouting match with him. The player pled guilty and a subsequent independent review concluded Alford had acted inappropriately. He also had a very bad rep at all of his schools for having Bobby Knight's personality without the integrity or the wins.
not just through the press
i have a friend who is head coach somewhere now - he was asst for alford - hates him - i mean haaaaaaates him. his opinion of sam isn't much better. i just can't tell any of those stories - it'd point to close to my buddy.
an alford - creighton story. as usual - altman was doing his thing through the MVC season when SA was at Mizzou st. creighton had a player from eastern europe named karlikanovas. he was pretty good player - not the star but a solid contributor. two days before CU was to play alford - and this is probably mid feb not at the beginning of season - he picks up the phone to the NCAA and questions karlikanovas' eligibility. so the kid has to sit for the SMS game - few days after the NCAA says - kid is fine - play on. he's THAT kind of asshole.
Using a Church to influence the victim into recanting.
coaches like to hang out together - vacation together - all that
no one hangs out with alford - he's an unbelievable jackass
Given his history--back when ND/UCLA meant something.
Every hire is a good hire, no coach deserves to be fired, and no coach is a cheater or unethical scumbag. If his program is caught cheating, he didn't know about it or he made a "mistake" but all the good things he has done outweighs his one and only blemish.
It's extreeeeeemely rare for one of them to criticize another coach.