You need to separate protestors from criminals.
by ndroman21 (2024-02-29 14:54:52)
Edited on 2024-02-29 15:52:50

In reply to: Democrats can also be criminals.  posted by Domer84

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Democratic leadership, up to and including President Biden, did, indeed, denounce rioting, burning, and looting, while supporting the right to protest.

See the link from Reuters.

This blurb from CNN puts it much more succinctly, but I didn't want to link solely to CNN, since it certainly leans left.

https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_44839468-3d38-415c-b0b0-11ceb87d1ced

I think this is, indeed, an example that shows what your news sources are.



Certainly.
by Domer84  (2024-02-29 19:12:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

Unfortunately, what happened in the summer of 2020 was not, as CNN once said, "mostly peaceful protests". Numerous left leaning news organizations tried to spin those riots in that way. If you think that, then perhaps it says something about the news sources you use.

If there are 100 people waving signs and chanting while 500 loot and torch the Target, it is a riot. Plenty of Democratic politicians refused to denounce the violence, afraid of alienating constituents. Brandon Johnson, Chicago's esteemed mayor, said not to worry about looting since "these companies have insurance". He thought that police resources should go instead to address "structural racism". And he was not alone. BLM was pushing to defund the police and encouraging the idea that looting was reparations. Too many Democratic politicians were nodding along.

There were over 200 riots, not protests, that summer and, I believe, the vast majority of Americans were horrified by what they were seeing on the news. The point I was making is that the Republicans, as usual, missed an opportunity that Fall to make Democrats either agree with the looters or take a position contrary to BLM. The Republicans have always been incompetent in managing their messaging and this was a prime example of that.

I would push back on this
by ravenium  (2024-03-01 00:09:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

There were in fact thousands of people peacefully marching for police reform by day. And of course, there were a lot of ugly, ugly riots at night. The former was sometimes used as a cover for the latter.

I would say yes, outlets such as CNN conflated them for clicks and several of the more left leaning Democrats tried to whatabout it to keep their base happy. Republicans wanted people to think every march was a riot, because it fed to THEIR base.

However, both absolutely happened.
True.
by Domer84  (2024-03-01 13:31:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Cannot reply

We had a protest march here in Nashville that probably had 10,000 participants. No problems. They marched around downtown, went to hear some speeches and went home. A few nights later, however, some folks tried to burn down the courthouse and looted the Margaritaville restaurant.

You are correct that the media spun these types of events differently. On ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN etc. these were all just protests with a few folks that got out of hand. On Fox, conversely, every protest was the end of society.

I don't know how many peaceful protests there were in 2020. I do know that several times per week that summer there was some type of violence: smashed windows, looted stores, burning businesses. This was the kind of thing not seen here since the '70s and should have been universally condemned, but it was not. Too many Democratic politicians, fearful of upsetting the mob, made excuses and refused to criticize them. The GOP allowed those politicians to skate on that position thus missing an opportunity, as usual.