But that was the matchup of the left No. 1s. There has always been an idea floated to reseed once the Regionals are over. The problem would be if there were three of them. SHould ND have played Louisville (top No. 1 vs. lowest survivor). But what if there are only two conference teams and the seeding radition (as this year) is to make them play each other before the final.
Also the conference was obviously guaranteed an NC once the match was set. Ironic that the teams which delivered the Big East its titles (now the most of any conference) are bolting. And Geno takes with him the most titles (tied) of any coach with plenty of time to become No. 1 and give a headline to another conference. That's where the traditions of the SEC will come back to the front.
before last year's final? UConn didn't need luck to beat ND Sunday night, but they sure as fuck were lucky that Baylor lost a week before that.
Of course, hindsight...
Watching a replay of 2012 NC game, if Peters could have stayed on the floor...
UConn might well have beaten Baylor had they met in the title game, but it sure as hell wouldn't have been a 33-point blowout. And I'd have loved ND's chances against anyone but Baylor in last year's title game.
I think winning that year could have changed a few things over the last two.
that one really slipped away, IIRC, in the 2nd half.
2-4 in a row.
situation nearly as much as their mens team will. Calhoun leaving really came at a bad time for them with them getting left out in the cold (at least temporarily) in the conference shakeup. UConn MBB has gone from being one of the best jobs in the country to being a fairly difficult job IMO. That could all change overnight though IMO if they get an ACC invite.
makes UConn very hard to beat.
After they beat us Sunday, many posters correctly pointed out that we had a hard time matching up against a frontcourt with two long/tall talented players. People lamented our relative lack of frontcourt size.
Is there any team out there that can match up with UConn's frontcourt?
ND's supposed "lack of size" isn't an ND problem, it's a women's college basketball problem. What team is going to match up with UConn? It's not like there is a handful of elite programs that ND can't crack. UConn is the gold standard. Contemporaneously speaking, ND is #2, with 7 wins in our last 9 games against them.
Curious about where Breanna's legacy will ultimately shake out. Is she going to be on par with a Dianna Turasi, Maya Moore, and Rebecca Lobo or something just below that? I guess that's a lot of pressure for one player to absorb and frankly she struggled with it at times as a freshman this season. It'll be interesting to see it play out.
UCONN did get some benefit from stacking up against ND multiple times in the season to get a measure of what they need to work on.
Unless they schedule a brutal out of conference schedule, how are they going to get that in their new league?
I'd argue that part of the reason why 3 of the Final Four teams were from the Big East is because of how strong the league schedule was and how they were well tested teams. I'd argue that is part of the reason why the other top seeds didn't make it. Sure there was a bit of early season play with the top teams, but nothing later in the season.
they should be awesome with 2 key seniors and 3 sophs who will improve a lot.
Then, the year after, they are bringing in 3 more top recruits.
At least ND has an outstanding 3some coming in-a wing, a PG and a center. They should be better even without Skylar but probably not as good as UConn.
home in over a month before the Final Four...and we played like a tired team that had been on the road for a month, which we essentially were.
Yeah, I'm not going to stop thinking that the head of the committee has a massive love jones for Geno and basically gave him a gilded path to the final game. Which is why I only watched the SportsCenter highlights and not this game. I'd be interested to see the ratings without Diggins or Griner in this game. I'm guessing that they bombed compared to the last two years' finals.
ND should have had two homes games and UConn would have had to travel had NJ not agreed to sportsbooks. Otherwise UConn goes to New Jersey instead of Bridgeport
ND treated the game as a business trip instead of having fun that they were in the Final Four. They played tight while UConn played with nothing to lose.
UConn, due to the Irish wins at the end of the regular season and tournament , had the mental/emotional outlook that the NCAA tournament was a chance to start with a clean slate and see what they could do. There was not t,he same expectation or experience with them as was with the Irish , so with less to lose they could go out and have fun.
With a 30 game win streak one loss record, two consecutive NC appearances and the presence of a once in a generation senior talent in Skylar, it was more of a " taking care of unfinished business trip" than a " let's see what we can do" journey through this tournament .
It is the organizer's fault that they screwed ND and didn't make accommodations for them and shipped UConn out regardless of whether ND was hosting or not.
The first two rounds were a paperwork issue on ND's part, fine. But it was the NCAA who sent them to Iowa to play AGAINST Iowa, instead of Columbus, which would have been a shorter drive for ND fans, PLUS not facing Ohio State playing on their home court. The NCAA not only gave UConn two home games for the first two rounds, but the third and fourth round games were 75 miles away from Storrs in their home state? Come on now. It would be like us having the first two rounds in South Bend and the third and fourth round in Valpo. I'd take that placement in a heartbeat. UConn stayed home for a MONTH before the Final Four, including their annual preferential treatment by the Big East in hosting the Tournment...AGAIN. ND was on the road for a month. You call that fair treatment? I surely don't. The Huskies were rested and ready and it showed in their tournment run.
by the tournament to lift UConn for the first two rounds.
And the way the field was seeded, ND could not have opened in Columbus, which got 3-14 and 6-10 games. Iowa City had 1-16 and 8-9 games.
because UCONN can draw crowds larger than any other team, including ND.
Hartford is a less expensive place to hold the WBB BET than NYC, where the MBB BET is played.
WBB is still struggling financially to grow.
Until WBB can draw the same volume of crowds that the men's do, tournament sites will favor those teams with the largest fan following.
now they can hold the American Athletic Conference championship game at Storrs. Big East womens basketball has favored Uconn for years. They all got what they deserved. Uconn, Geno, The Big East... See ya. Now maybe tournament time we can meet in the championship game and not be on the same side of the brackets all the time. NCAA committee always worried about having an all BE championship and it still happened.
in 2011 the #1 seeds were UConn, Stanford, Baylor and Tennessee in that order. We were the highest #2 and were sent to Dayton. UConn was the #1 overall. We beat UT and thus got UConn.
in 2012, we were the #3 #1 seed, UConn was the #2 #1 seed.
in 2013, we were the #2 #1 seed, UConn was the #3 #1 seed. UConn wasn't dropping to 4th no matter what. And let's say they did, we still would have had to beat them for the title.
The committee doesn't look at the bracket and say let's see how we can screw the BE. Now do they look to create good match ups? sure. It's why they had UT-Stanford possibly lined up and Cal-Stanford. But because Walz pulled off the upset it skewed the F4.
Bottomline, if ND wants to win the National Title they had to beat UConn at some point. the last two years they did that and came up short against the Big 12.
Thanks for your input. The committee has tried to avoid a Notre Dame - Uconn final. It's easy to see every year. It's always a semi. Now that ND is in ACC I believe they will look at a Notre Dame - Uconn final has something they WANT. Bet your bottome dollar that next year, no matter what seed, they will be on opposite sides. High ratings, rival, different conferences.
last season? Not sure what this season's numbers looked like.
And if ND hosted the BET, don't you think the arena would be fairly well filled? WBB doesn't need the YUM Center or Hartford for the BET. Purcell would have been fine. Room rates, dining, and gas are cheap here, compared to the East Coast. The trip here would have been cheaper for programs and fanbases, compared to a trip to NYC or CT, the most expensive places in the country as far as cost of living is concerned. Good promotion for the BET could draw respectable crowds for the first round when the bigger guns aren't playing, IMO.
Similar situation with hockey. WHY play in large arenas to empty seats? Put the NCAA tounrment on campus. Fill smaller arenas rather than hope for the best with large ones. MBB needs larger arenas than Purcell at tournment time. That, I understand. But WBB isn't at the point where a building that "only" houses 9000 fans should be deemed unacceptable for the BET. What IS unacceptable is giving the dominant team the home court advantage on a yearly basis.
Not that it means anything, since neither ND or UConn are part of the Big East anymore. Enjoy dominanting a shitty conference, Luigi. At least your ego will continue to be well fed with wins.
One doesn't build legitimacy by making decisions like that. If the point is to equal the total attendance of the men....well realistically that's never going to happen. Most men's teams don't earn their keep. Football generated revenue is the engine that pulls the money train.
WBB needs to make money where they can until they can do it anywhere.
True most MBB teams aren't profitable, but I bet the MBB BET was or at least paid for the cost of hosting it in NYC. I'm not sure about the WBB BET, but because they kept it in Hartford, the BE had to be at least breaking even on it.
TV contracts is where the $$$ are and if your team can't draw a significant audience, it looks bad on TV even if your team is the dominate one in the conference. That's why most of UCONN's WBB games are not televised by ESPN or CBS. Currently, SNY carries most of UCONN's WBB games. CPTV, Hartford's PBS station, used to do it until the beginning of the 2012-2013 season.
UCONN WBB will do fine as long as Geno remains the head coach. They'll have problems when he retires. When he starts having problems recruiting top talent, that will be a sign that his health could be failing, just like with Summit. I suspect Jen Rizzoti would be the first choice to replace him. She's done a great job at Hartford with the limited budget she gets from there. And she played under Geno, so she could maintain the same style of play. Her problem would be "can she handle the pressure of replacing Geno and keeping UCONN dominant in WBB?"
If she doesn't leave soon, I wouldn't doubt she's being groomed to replace him.
Rizzoti has struggled the last few years in the America East.
The logical choice is Rizzoti. If Jamelle Elliot can improve Cinncinatti to be a winning program then she would be the next logical choice if Rizzoti turns down the offer. If Shea becomes a head coach somewhere in the next couple years and does very well there, then she could jump to the top of the list.
The U of Hartford is the B league in Div I WBB. This is where Jen would be frustrated with recruiting players away from their home to Hartford. Jen chose to coach there 1) because they offered her the job and 2) she wanted to stay in Connecticut to raise a family.
UCONN has a much larger recruiting budget than U of Hartford.
when the Vols were the Top Dog in NCAA WBB. Tenn always played at or near home til the Final 4.
UCONN eclipsed Tenn as the Top Dog for good in 2002.
Until WBB talent pool deepens and widens, like the men's side, UCONN will dominate or be the gold standard for WBB as long as Geno is head coach at UCONN.
Tournament was a joke. I didn't watch last night's game either. When the selection committee starts treating Uconn like everyone else maybe I will take it more serious. Hope they have fun in their own conference. The only competitive game they will have is at practice.
Yeah, he had a plan to win the NC and it all started with home cooking.
They have a great freshman class coming in this fall.
They commit way to many turnovers and their coach doesn't have a problem with that.
Because of Geno, UCONN is generally a more disciplined team. Taking care of the ball is the First Commandment at UCONN. If the No. Carolina coach was one of his assistants, he'd fire her for her lapse of judgement about the importance of turnovers. And I'd support him in that act.
UCONN, especially the team tonight, would eat No. Carolina as a snack and then wonder what they could have for supper.