JJB ran a 4.66
by SEE (2024-02-29 21:05:59)

I thought he had a great year too
by nohow  (2024-03-02 11:58:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It definitely seems like he'll make a roster and stick around for a few years.


who's down with JJB? *
by jt  (2024-03-01 12:26:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yeah you know SEE *
by Giggity_Giggity  (2024-03-01 12:40:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


We should have to pay for this sort of content. *
by NDBass  (2024-03-01 14:55:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Oh, you’re all payin’ for it. *
by Giggity_Giggity  (2024-03-01 23:37:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Dallas Turner 4.46
by RJD  (2024-03-01 09:28:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You don't have to a Doctor of the Church to postulate it might be nice to recruit some kids from St. Thomas Aquinas in Fort Lauderdale again.


What's the logic/explanation for "earning some money"
by DakotaDomer  (2024-03-01 08:57:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Is this a fast time?

Is it better than other DLs?

Is it better than other DLs of similar weight?


The linked article shows the average combine times
by irishlaw2010  (2024-03-01 10:13:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

by position. It looks like the average D-End or Edge is at 4.81 so JJB's 4.66 is a very good time. His time is more like a slow OLB but he has the size to play on the line.

Wide receivers - 4.48 seconds

Cornerbacks - 4.48

Running backs - 4.49

Free Safety - 4.53

Strong Safety - 4.55

Outside Linebacker - 4.60

Tight End - 4.75

Inside Linebacker - 4.76

Fullback - 4.80

Defensive End - 4.80

Quarterback - 4.81

Edge - 4.81

Defensive Tackle - 5.06

Center - 5.21

Guard - 5.27 (not sure why guards and offensive guards are listed separately)

Offensive Tackle - 5.32

Offensive Guard - 5.37


You need to use allcaps on the made up position of "edge"
by ACross  (2024-03-02 15:39:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Thusly, "EDGE".


To avoid confusion with The Edge. *
by Homeboy73  (2024-03-02 15:58:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Thusly, David Howell Evans *
by catripledomer  (2024-03-03 13:04:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Regretfully that information is historical
by DakotaDomer  (2024-03-01 10:37:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Actually I don't know where it comes from but I assume it's historical since not all groups have gone yet.

Here's the average 40 time for DL/Edge group this year that ran - 4.68

And here's their average weight - 257.53

This does not indicate a particularly strong run by JJB (4.66) who is on the lighter side at 239 lbs. All of this took about 5 minutes to find and calculate.


Nick Bosa's 40 time was 4.79
by jt  (2024-03-01 12:33:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I think all of this underwear Olympics stuff is nonsense.

Teams that put on the tape will find out all they need to know about guys.


Just a tad over his Wonderlic. *
by Giggity_Giggity  (2024-03-01 23:37:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Speaking of Andy Katzenmoyer
by RJD  (2024-03-02 13:20:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"During five of the seven semesters he had been enrolled at Ohio State through 1997, Katzenmoyer earned a 1.72 grade point average or lower.

In 1999, Sports Illustrated conducted an investigation into allegations that Katzenmoyer received special treatment in order to be academically eligible his junior year.

By the end of the 1997-1998 academic year, Katzenmoyer had pulled in a GPA less than the required 2.0 needed to play.

The result was two summer school sessions that were to be used to get his GPA to 2.0 in time for the 1998 season.

SI’s investigation found that Katzenmoyer’s classes that summer included: AIDS: What Every College Student Should Know and golf."


Not going to argue the value and also don't care about
by DakotaDomer  (2024-03-01 13:20:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"underwear olympics"

But I was wondering why SEE posted how JJB was making money with his 40 time and didn't include any context to whether or not his 40 time was any good.


Kyle Hamilton’s 40 time certainly was predictive. Not.
by IAND75  (2024-03-01 12:42:31)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Second slowest time of all safeties in his combine class. There was a lot of hand wringing at the time.

Pro-Bowl appearance and first team All-Pro in his second year in the NFL.


Year after year the top GMs seem to get the best players.
by 84david  (2024-03-03 06:59:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The main reason why is that the number one predictor of NFL success is college production, which the perennial top teams use for their draft board.

The bottom feeders fall in love with NFL combine (aka underwear olympics) wonders.


It was so dumb that he dropped
by mocopdx  (2024-03-01 12:47:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Imagine watching three years of tape on Hamilton in college and thinking he wasn't worth a top ten pick because he ran .15 seconds slower than people expected in a straight line track meet. The Ravens picking him and teams like the Giants/Falcons passing on him is why the Ravens are an excellent franchise and the others are not.

Oh look at that, he's one of the top two safeties in the league in year two.


Nose Guards? *
by RJD  (2024-03-01 10:26:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Great info. Thanks for this post *
by drmurray  (2024-03-01 10:14:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post