Yes, inherently there is added pressure. Falcons and coach
by Inigomontoya (2014-11-29 23:18:02)
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  In reply to: Will Crossroads project impact coaching decisions?  posted by Ndvermin95



Smith are in similar situation in Atlanta with a brand new stadium just having broken ground. New seat licenses to pay for, etc.

At least that is the discussion down here. Hey we kind of suck...we are in first place with a losing record....coach smith has put together winning seasons back to back which never happened before he got here.

but the team has underachieved mightily. so he probably needs to go. And Arthur blank isnt getting younger and wants a winner.



Different ownership priorities and clientele
by Jvan  (2014-11-29 23:22:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Suffice to say Notre Dame has nothing in common with the Atlanta Falcons or any NFL team.


The corporate boxes are going to be a harder sell if
by smcchick  (2014-11-29 23:39:23)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

they keep putting crap on the field. The people that will fill those will not be alums who care too much to stop going. And you know the powers that be are excited about those dollar signs.


I disagree
by Groundhog  (2014-11-29 23:33:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

They're very similar to the Redskins. Excellent in the late 80s/early 90s, shitty since then with a few years where they teased. Looked like 2012 was the start of something big, but alas no. Complete idiots running the show, but still making loads of money even with the product on the field.

At least Dan Snyder wants to win though.


The financial aspects are worlds apart...
by Kbyrnes  (2014-11-30 00:07:11)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...The experience of any pro team with a brand new stadium sheds very little light on the Crossroads project, and I say that having appraised a major sports stadium and in the process having become familiar with the economics of these facilities.

Just a few major differences: no pro sports team has the financial resources of the University of Notre Dame. The tax implications of a university and ownership of a pro franchise are apples and oranges. Pro teams don't have significant donors contributing funds for construction. While athletics is ancillary to the core mission of a university, it's everything to a pro franchise. Pro stadiums must be planned with a lot of input from local government due to traffic, utility, and neighboring ownership considerations (not to mention the fact that most modern stadiums have been financed by the public). Construction on a campus that is under unitary ownership is more insulated from local government controls.


You're comparing results, not structure or motivation *
by Jvan  (2014-11-29 23:39:51)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yeah, but point being a lot of people dont want to come into
by Inigomontoya  (2014-11-29 23:28:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

A new venue, pay more money, and see shit on the floor.

Granted ive still been going to games for the last 18 years during this shitshow period. But i will go to fewer games, ( i promise this time) if its more expensive.


they've seen shit on the floor for 20 years
by jt  (2014-11-29 23:31:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

they'll keep coming and they'll keep paying.


It will be interesting
by mitquinn  (2014-11-29 23:33:32)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to see if ND Football has growth problems through the boomer decline.


People need to stop going to games altogether.
by domer_bb  (2014-11-29 23:30:42)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There's no excuse for continuing to attend games. I haven't been back since 2003, and I won't be going back until the school starts taking football seriously again.


There are plenty of suckers willing to take your place *
by Jvan  (2014-11-29 23:30:38)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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