Exceptionally nice guy. We talked for nearly three hours. He despises Brian Kelly b/c of how he supposedly handled Nate. He claims Kelly wanted Nate to move to Safety and threatened to yank his scholarship (I thought Nate was a walk on but Joe said otherwise). Montana called Swarbrick who relayed that Kelly denied the whole thing. Also said Nick is the biggest ND fan in the family but wouldn't go there b/c he didn't want to compete w/ Nate.