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by olson (2013-03-07 12:24:49)
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I think there's a "good citizenship" component
by omahadomer  (2013-03-07 16:17:09)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to that award (whether it's expressly stated or not), which means that ND tends to attract a lot of them.


Kind of tells you what that award is worth for recruiting *
by sprack  (2013-03-07 15:45:52)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Every year when we go up north in Wisconsin for vacation,
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-03-07 14:20:23)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

we drive by Southern Door on Hwy. 57, Jim Flanigan's HS.


Player development was not strong for the 2005 group *
by frickerdog  (2013-03-07 14:02:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Only two of nine became substantial contributors.
by PeteatND  (2013-03-07 15:35:29)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

- Prince, Carufel and Jones transferred, and I don't think any of them became more than periodic contributors after that

- Gaines disappeared from the face of the Earth (I remember him not enrolling for his junior year, then never hearing from him again)

- Schmidt and Gallup never did anything that I can remember, beyond special teams, though I'm not sure that was a surprise

- Richardson became a marginal contributor

- Young and Olsen became solid members of the O-line, but unfortunately not much more

Beyond those Gatorade state POYs, Yeatman, Reuland, Richard Jackson and Zach Frazer all transferred, Webb had health issues, and George West, Kallen Wade, Toryan Smith, Paddy Mullen, Leonard Gordon and Ryan Burkhart all rode the pine. Only Aldridge, Sergio Brown, Robby Parris, Dan Wenger (who transferred for his 5th year), McNeil, Walls, John Ryan and Chris Stewart were contributors. And among those, only McNeil, Walls and Stewart were consistent starters. Which makes a total of 5 starter-caliber players in a class of 28, one of whom (Walls) spent a season elsewhere because of rumored academic problems.

Such a low hit rate speaks to how overrated that class was (no. 2 in the country, I believe), and how poor Charlie and his staff were at evaluating and developing talent.


Hard to believe that Jaylon didn't win Indiana......
by Wolfetone  (2013-03-07 13:19:23)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He might be the best player in senior class....


This kid won it over him...uhh..huh? (link)
by karmel  (2013-03-07 13:26:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Did Schrader ever commit? *
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-03-07 14:19:16)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


"Schrader joins an elite alumni association
by Carroll02  (2013-03-07 14:15:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...including Mark Sanchez, Wes Welker, Terrell Suggs, Anquan Boldin, and Jerome Bettis."

Talented players to be sure, but is the best group of five they could put together when touting past winners? Mark Sanchez?


FWIW, the last three listed all won a Super Bowl.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-03-07 15:08:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But I get your point.


Isn't it last 4, hasn't Welker won a Super Bowl?
by Domerduck  (2013-03-07 15:13:56)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But I also agree Sanchez is a stretch. Must be the GQ covers.


Welker has been to the Super Bowl, but not won it, thanks
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-03-07 15:20:16)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

in part to this:


Why would this be hard to understand.
by NDMike2001  (2013-03-07 13:40:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He may not be a D1 talent at quarterback, but in HS he was first team all state...as a Junior.

I assume 4.09 GPA is out of a 4.0 scale (w/ weighted classes), which means he's an outstanding student and outstanding football player.

It's not a knock on Jaylon. He was Mr. Football in Indiana. But apparently this Schrader kid isn't a slouch.


What I find hard to understand...
by Mobster  (2013-03-07 14:53:16)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is how the only picture of him they could find is blurry and headless.


Thanks, couple of comments
by charlottend  (2013-03-07 12:52:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Considering the overall ranking of the classes and the quality or lack there of it's amazing to me that 2003 and 2004 both have more than our most recent class.

Is Powlus our only National player of the year?

Was Davonte Neal a two year POY? Did we have any others with multiple years?


POs
by olson  (2013-03-07 13:57:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

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Weren't Minor and Ching defensive players of the year? *
by Domer99  (2013-03-07 14:03:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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by olson  (2013-03-07 16:33:43)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

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Ah, you are correct. Thanks. *
by Domer99  (2013-03-07 16:42:37)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Floyd, Neal and Te'o - I believe both won it twice *
by karmel  (2013-03-07 13:25:50)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I'm not sure what the criteria is for the award.
by Tex Francisco  (2013-03-07 13:05:21)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The guy who won for Indiana doesn't even seem to show up on most of the recruiting services.


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