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by olson (2013-03-04 14:05:27)
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So, our most recent 3 transfers were from...
by 1mulligan  (2013-03-06 08:35:52)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yale, Northwestern, and William & Mary? Not exactly JC stuff.


More on Johnny "Blood" McNally.
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-03-04 22:59:44)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Won four NFL titles with the Packers with former "Domer" Curly Lambeau. Member of the NFL Hall of Fame. Many stories abound about his wild side.


McNally also later returned to St John's after his NFL days
by jt  (2013-03-04 22:54:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

were concluded and he was the last coach to be head coach prior to John Gagliardi.

the MN school has had two coaches in the last 70 or so years, both hall of famers.


Somehow I doubt...
by StanfordDomer  (2013-03-05 19:39:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Gary Fasching will make it three in a row.


there you go again
by jt  (2013-03-05 20:41:23)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

relying on favorable odds to make a call like that.


no Dan Quinn? *
by irishrock  (2013-03-04 19:24:49)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Was Larry Moriarity one of the first redshirts at ND?
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-03-04 17:20:05)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

To put it more accurately, was he one of the first to come back for a 5th year? I recall hearing that while in school.


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by olson  (2013-03-04 17:44:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

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Randy Harrison was the first ND player ...
by CJC  (2013-03-04 18:15:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to earn five monograms in football.

IIRC, he was injured early in the 1976 season, early enough to qualify for an NCAA medical redshirt.

But the defense was on the field so much in the season opener against Pitt, that Harrison logged enough minutes before his injury to qualify for a monogram by Notre Dame's requirements.

Somewhere along the line, I got the notion that this has happened again since Harrison, but I'm not sure.


Who was Justin Hall for 200, Alex *
by RJD  (2013-03-05 18:39:27)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He broke his arm on final play of first half of PU game...
by Scoop80  (2013-03-04 22:20:01)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

IIRC, he was tackling a PU WR near the goal line who had just caught a desperation pass. Playing 1.5 games was enough to letter but not so much as to cost him 1 year of eligibility.


Ray Herring was a recent one. *
by SavageDragon  (2013-03-04 18:28:42)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Close call giving Ruffer the nod over Male.
by NDMD89  (2013-03-04 17:04:59)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Without looking at the stats I would have thought Male had a better career.


Gus Cifelli
by ndbob79  (2013-03-04 16:44:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Long time Oakland County (Michigan) judge and great human being.


I appeared in before Judge Cifelli many times. He was a...
by ndmck  (2013-03-05 18:11:51)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

class act. I remember a witness leaving the stand, unexcused in the middle of cross-examination. Judge Cifelli's response was to declare that it was a good time for a break. That decision defused the situation and let the impact of that unorthodox and telling gesture settle in. When he was named Man of the Year by the Detroit Notre Dame Club I bought a table for a lot of non-ND friends who just liked the Judge.


Mosca must be quite a character
by JC_90_94  (2013-03-04 16:34:04)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He and Joe Kapp mixed it up on stage a couple of years ago at a Canadian Football League reunion-type event. Complete with Mosca swinging his cane at Kapp's head and Kapp landing a combination of punches as Mosca went down. All preserved on video, of course, and linked below.


I knew him a little. Possibly the scariest human I've
by ProV1x  (2013-03-04 19:11:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

ever seen. The Irish had some great players across the board in the late 50's but had literally no quality depth. That could have been avoided.


So it wasn't just the Kapper that brought out his bad side? *
by JC_90_94  (2013-03-04 20:43:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Oh hell no, he was one of those guys you always
by ProV1x  (2013-03-05 07:32:14)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

wanted on your side in a donnybrook. Once I was entering the quad side door door of Badin and Mosca was standing at the top of the stairs carrying a heavy oversized armchair. I had no clue what he was doing so I politely asked him if I could hold the door for him.

Last I saw he was walking down towards the Rock carrying that big chair like it weighed nothing. Possibly he was taking it down to the lake so he could sit and meditate on life it's ownself.


Julie Rykovich
by billweber72  (2013-03-04 15:35:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Either the first woman on the team or one tough SOB.


Played 5 years in the NFL and 2 in the AAFC *
by 59er_jim  (2013-03-04 17:53:27)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


speaking of Holy Cross
by jt  (2013-03-04 15:35:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

does anyone else find it a bit odd that it is a Jesuit and not CSC school?

I had always assumed that it was CSC until recently I found out that it is Jesuit. It's like a CSC school being named "Loyola" or something like that.


THE College of the Holy Cross not Holy Cross College *
by saderdomer  (2013-03-05 08:47:02)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Holy Cross College was established in 1843...
by Corky  (2013-03-04 21:37:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...and the Jesuits were running out of Jesuit saint's names due to the after-effects of the recent Papal suppression of the order.

The Society of Jesus had been founded during the Renaissance era, when social mores were in considerable disorder. The Jesuits wanted to raise the moral level of the ordinary people. This meant that the members of the ruling classes, namely, emperors, kings, regional rulers, and members of the noble families would all have to reform their lives and stop seeking temporal gains for only their own benefits. To accomplish this goal, the Jesuits set up educational ideals that would not only provide the sons of the ruling-class families with intellectual training but also with a thorough moral education. First the kings and soon the members of the nobility raised objections against this educational policy.

Sixteenth-century Germany was also experiencing a period of political Absolutism. Some Jesuits preached in public about the moral responsibilities of the government leaders and wrote books and articles on the same themes. The king demanded that the Jesuit superior general put a stop to such sermons against the mores of the times. In the following century, the Jesuits were expelled from one country after another: Spain, Portugal, and France, because the rulers were opposed to political absolutism and to the Enlightenment. Finally, the Bourbon rulers in France and the Hapsburg rulers in Austria and Spain pressured Pope Clement XIV to suppress the Society of Jesus.

Pope Clement was too weak to resist these powerful demands, so he wrote the simple sentence: "For the sake of the peace of the Church, one must sacrifice even beloved persons" to the Society of Jesus, whose members had made a solemn promise of complete obedience to the Pope. Thus, the break-up of the Society of Jesus was ordered.

The Jesuits in general obeyed this Papal command, but in the areas controlled by the Russian czars the Papal order was never officially promulgated, so about 150 Jesuits continued to function. Forty-one years after this command to disperse, The Society of Jesus received the permission to resume their activities again from Pope Pius VII on August 14th, 1814.


First, it's the "The College of the Holy Cross", not
by sprack  (2013-03-05 11:45:20)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"Holy Cross College". Yes, it makes a difference, just like there is no "Notre Dame University" in Indiana.

And while what you posted is interesting, it has nothing to do with why the Fr. Fenwick who founded the place named the school the way he did. The whole thing on saints' names had zero to do with it. For example, Gonzaga University (after St. Aloysius Gonzaga) wouldn't be founded for another 44 years.

Marquette University is named after a Jesuit, but he isn't a saint. The same goes for John Carroll University. St. Louis University is named after the city it's in (St. Louis, which was named after the King Louis IX of France, not a Jesuit), as are Seattle University and the University of San Francisco. Georgetown is named after the district in Washington DC where it's located (and was founded by the aforementioned John Carroll). And I'm sure there are other examples but you get the point.

The College of the Holy Cross was named for a reason that has nothing to do with what you posted, and it's in the wikipedia article I linked below.


When I read this originally I thought you were talking about
by Domer99  (2013-03-04 17:42:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

the school across the street because Holy Cross College in South Bend is definitely CSC.

By the way, does Holy Cross College (the one in Indiana) now offer 4 year degrees?


Yes. They have been for about 10 years. *
by Mark_It_Zero  (2013-03-04 17:53:11)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


All explained well in the attached wikipedia article (link)
by sprack  (2013-03-04 17:21:52)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's named after the old cathedral in Boston.


Naw... weirder is King's College
by domer4  (2013-03-04 15:51:46)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

should that be Episcopalian rather than Holy Cross?


I also find it weird. *
by Mark_It_Zero  (2013-03-04 15:42:53)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


'Tramp' players.
by goldhelmethead  (2013-03-04 14:35:43)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Hey, does that guy go to school here? Fuck it, he can play.


Great stuff
by stanford_07  (2013-03-04 14:18:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Out of curiosity, where do you find all this info?


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by olson  (2013-03-04 14:27:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

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Where did you find the info on the 17 ND players killed in
by dillon76  (2013-03-04 18:38:30)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

WWII? It would be interesting to read up on them. I know that the football player who scored the winning touchdown in the 1928 Army vs. ND game was killed in WWII but he is the only one I am aware of.


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by olson  (2013-03-04 19:11:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

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Great! One of my favorite parts of the movie, "Guadancanal
by dillon76  (2013-03-04 23:09:06)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Diary" was when the narrator of the movie mentioned that the Chaplain played HB at Notre Dame. Since the movie was based on a book that dealt with the real battle, I always wondered whether that part was factual.


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