Rivals top recruiting schools over five years
by SEE (2017-07-14 09:49:44)
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1. ALABAMA
2. OHIO STATE
3. FLORIDA STATE
4. LSU
5. GEORGIA
6. USC

7. AUBURN
8. NOTRE DAME
9. TEXAS A&M
10. FLORIDA
11. CLEMSON
12. TENNESSEE
13. OKLAHOMA
14. UCLA
15. MIAMI
T16. OLE MISS
T16. TEXAS
T18. MICHIGAN
T18. SOUTH CAROLINA
20. OREGON
21. PENN STATE
22. NEBRASKA
23. MISSISSIPPI STATE
24. STANFORD
T25. ARKANSAS
T25. KENTUCKY
27. MICHIGAN STATE
28. VIRGINIA TECH
T29. NORTH CAROLINA
T29. WASHINGTON
31. ARIZONA STATE
32. LOUISVILLE
33. TCU
34. OKLAHOMA STATE
35. ARIZONA
36. WEST VIRGINIA
37. MARYLAND
38. MISSOURI
39. BAYLOR
40. WISCONSIN
41. CALIFORNIA
42. NC STATE
43. UTAH
44. PITTSBURGH
45. VANDERBILT
46. TEXAS TECH
47. OREGON STATE
48. VIRGINIA
49. IOWA
50. DUKE



It's probably being overly negative to wonder
by ugoirish  (2017-07-14 11:24:32)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

if the shit-for-brains who're convinced that ND can no longer compete in the cutthroat world of CFB that supposedly never existed in the past have read these rankings.


Two teams on the schedule immediately below ND
by Irish Warrior  (2017-07-14 11:12:12)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

are odds on favorites to beat them (#15 Miami and #24 Stanford) the remaining three on the list are toss ups (#27 Michigan State, #29 North Carolina and #42 NC St.). That ought to tell you about player development. The two immediately above them two and three spots respectively are also expected losses and may not be close games.


Their methodology is a bit simplistic
by irish2x  (2017-07-14 10:21:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It seems they are doing this purely based on rankings, however we have suffered a great deal of attrition in key spots and, just like the issue we had under Weis, we have failed to fill classes in all needed areas. Still, we have more than enough player talent to beat the likes of Northwestern and Duke and Texas and Michigan State and Navy (!) and on and on.

What these rankings do tell me, though, is that while the current climate may not permit us to be in same atmosphere as Alabama or Ohio State just from a recruit access standpoint (the Reuben Foster's of the world are not coming to ND), we still, despite ResLife and the remaining academic restrictions, can attract talent. And we have done this with a head coach who is not known for his recruiting prowess--although I'm sure recruits are mesmerized by his chameleon like ability to change colors like a fat, Irish mood ring. It's equally amazing that we can still be at this level given everything and yet heartbreaking that we can't do better by young men who pass up far easier paths to be part of our community.


It's probably about right.
by WilfordBrimley  (2017-07-14 11:18:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Roster churn is usually even higher at places like Alabama and Ohio State -
intentionally so - than it is at Notre Dame, though they usually start out with larger numbers as well. They tend to offset in the long run, and we have to have a slightly higher hit rate with our prospects.


That's a great point
by irish2x  (2017-07-14 11:49:46)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I will say, not so much as a rebuttal but as a clarification, that our specific instances of attrition, particularly in the 2013 class, oftentimes come as a greater expense because they are higher rated players--like the Bryant's and Vanderdoes'. Alabama can afford to lose 5 stars--because they have others and because they can really coach up lower rated players (some of their biggest hits have been 3 star guys).


Is the methodology taking JUCO transfers into account?
by DakotaDomer  (2017-07-14 11:34:07)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

That's the only variable I would think that could make our ranking an outlier.


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