My sense is most folks here agree on the core issues but present it in opposite (often antagonostic) ways. Some folks carve out the half full side of the debate and tend to present information in a very negative way. Others take the half full approach. The two shall never meet but for some reason feel a desire to convert the other. Not that anyone should care what I think but while I find some good insights here on regular basis, there is a lot of sideshow drama and emoting that seems quite silly, immature, and pointless.